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Post by retired plumber on March 21st 2009, 2:22 am

I just got my project and its the bed topper on my 96 ford ranger. The truck's metallic silver paint is fine but the matching canopy has peeling paint so........ Actually I will be using auto paint (matching) for this but the thing is that it will have metallic in it so it will be interesting to see how it will come out. If that works, I will try to do some graphics in a contrasting color using metalflake. Normally I would spray this but in keeping with the theme of this forum and especially since I said I would try this I will be rolling. I don't have any pictures yet and it might be a bit before I get started but rest assured, there will be pictures and a blow by blow description because I know there are many people interested in this.
The plan is to use a clear coat over the color coat because the color sanding would expose the metallic particles and allow them to degrade. Metalflake has to go on in clear and of course there will be several coats of clear over that also. Anyway, wish me luck
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Post by Techmaven on March 21st 2009, 3:22 pm

I think there might be a possibility this could work..Roll technique is the potential key.

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Post by MR2Miach on March 26th 2009, 6:08 am

Rolling on metallic might not be a good idea. A fellow MR2 owner is under way with his DIY paint project and has a very good picture of what flakes do when rolled on.



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Post by retired plumber on March 26th 2009, 11:30 pm

Thanks for the link. Looks like guite a project. I am still going to try it tho. Nothing ventured, nothing gained Laughing . Anyway, this is one of my hobbies and I really enjoy working on cars and painting them. I have been spraying paint for over 40 years (probably 75+ cars) as a hobby but never rolled one. As I said, normally I would spray this but I want to try the roller this time and it has to be metallic for two reasons. No. 1..... It has to match the stock metallic silver on the truck and No.2......I like metallic and metalflake and trick paint ( the truck in my avatar is pearl white with purple flake stripe) and I promised some people here I would do it with pictures and comments so..........I am stuck.
Its only paint. If it dosen't work thats fine and I will tell people and then sand it off and spray it. Now that I am retired I have all the time in the world so this is play for me. I have said mad3 while painting a few times so one more time is not a big deal and its not like its the whole truck. If this does work I might do the whole truck next year so this is really just an experiment.
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Post by MR2Miach on March 27th 2009, 4:10 am

I wish you the best of luck! Keep us posted, I am very interested if you have any words of advice. Nothing like learning something new.
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Post by retired plumber on March 27th 2009, 12:08 pm

MR2Miach, I'm just guessing here but it looks like it has been sanded which has exposed the edges of the flake. What has happened is, in sanding he has taken the color off the exposed edges and that is showing as a different color. He needs a couple of more coats because it looks blotchy and then clear to bury the flake before the final color sand (which can't touch the flake) and buffing. Again I am just guessing here but thats my $.02. Thanks for your comments
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Post by retired plumber on March 31st 2009, 5:50 pm

Here we go with some pictures (I hope)
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36932373@N05/3402045563/" title="96 ranger ds by retired plumber, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3402045563_4061e9d573_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="96 ranger ds" /></a>
This is the truck and the paint is fine for now but the canopy has a couple of spots

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36932373@N05/3402045579/" title="canopy bad paint 3 by retired plumber, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/3402045579_51dfe8ae28_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="canopy bad paint 3" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36932373@N05/3402045595/" title="canopy bad paint 2 by retired plumber, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3402045595_ace47d45ba_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="canopy bad paint 2" /></a>


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36932373@N05/3402851552/" title="canopy bad paint 1 by retired plumber, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3402851552_160e880de0_o.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="canopy bad paint 1" /></a>

This will be rolled as an experiment to see how metallic will come out. The there will be metalflake graphics applied, also with a roller. If this works, later the whole truck will get the treatment
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Post by retired plumber on March 31st 2009, 6:01 pm

I guess that didn't work too good. Would somebody walk me through posting pix. I thought there was a FAQ here about that but couldn't find it. Thanks
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Post by MR2Miach on March 31st 2009, 10:47 pm

retired plumber wrote:Here we go with some pictures (I hope)

This is the truck and the paint is fine for now but the canopy has a couple of spots









This will be rolled as an experiment to see how metallic will come out. The there will be metalflake graphics applied, also with a roller. If this works, later the whole truck will get the treatment
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Post by retired plumber on April 1st 2009, 12:57 am

thanks man
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Post by retired plumber on April 13th 2009, 4:07 pm

I rolled the first coat on the canopy this am so the great experiment has started. Too soon for good pix yet but i did take one of the wet edge that I keep talking about. Its not really necessary for the rollers but sprayers must be able to see it. I will try to upload it right this time. This is what a wet edge looks like.
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Post by retired plumber on April 13th 2009, 4:11 pm

Damm, it worked Shocked . Thanks MR2Miach for the how to.
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Post by MR2Miach on April 14th 2009, 12:59 am

Anything I can do to help. Can't wait to see some better shots of a more finished project. Keep up the good work!
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Post by retired plumber on April 14th 2009, 7:23 pm

Well, my experiment was a bust ahhh . 4 coats later and still rollermark stripes. However, after thinking about it I see a couple of reasons why it didn't work.
1--I was using bc/cc auto paint
2-- That ment I had to use the proper reducer.
3--The reducer made it set up FAST so no flow out.
4-- mineral spirits won't mix with the paint I had.
5-- Maybe regular enamel with metallic in it would work as long as mineral spirits works as a thinner.
Oh well, its only paint so I will sand it back down smooth and spray it. HOWEVER......... I think I am still right and will roll rusto clear over it. Still planning on doing lavender flake graphics first but they will go in rusto clear so I can use mineral spirits for thinner. That will give me the needed time to do the necessary roll out. That was the problem before. The paint was like contact glue. one pass of the roller and it was there and no amount of rolling would help. in fact it made it worse.
Anyway, we will see what happens when I use clear rusto this time. It might be a week or two because life keeps getting in the way of fun but it will happen so stay tuned. I really want to make this work. Right now its time for a beer beer
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Re: metallic paint

Post by microshift on April 20th 2009, 5:55 pm

Hi
You could try self leveling paint such as Interlux or maybe Rustolium. That doesn't leave rollermark stripes because, as time passes, the paint gets leveled and drys with very little orange peel in the end.
I know nothing about paint, but it was very easy to roll my car with Interlux. I have other problems, but nothing to do with rollermarks.
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Post by retired plumber on April 20th 2009, 10:18 pm

I would have done that if I could but the canopy had to match the truck so auto paint it was. I have been told rusto does not make clear in qts. anymore so I guess that part of the job is on indefinate hold untill I find some clear that mixes with mineral spirits. I went ahead and sprayed it, cut and buffed and put it back on the truck because I will need to use it soon but not sure when. Thanks anyway.
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Post by Rivethead on May 10th 2009, 10:11 am

Check out the Dodge Ram drag truck on the most recent page of the Moparts forum. This guy mixed Rustoleum Hunter Green and Alluminum and rolled it on. From the pictures it looks like he got a very convincing metallic with no striping from what I can tell. I know this won't work for your project because it won't match but for future projects...
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Post by megaglow_z on May 20th 2009, 6:48 pm

hmmmmm just in time to come back here...lol.

Sad that its not easy to do this. I was deciding how to go about doing this to the top of the toyota
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Post by retired plumber on May 21st 2009, 12:31 am

Hi Megaglow.
Glad to see you again. I STILL think if you can find some clear that will mix with mineral spirits and put metal flake in it, it would work. Reason being that auto paint (which I used) set up way too fast and the paint would not roll out and flatten. Mineral spirits slows the set up so there will be flow out. At least thats my thought and I'm sticking to it. If I can find some rusto clear I will try again but as I said before I was told they dont make clear in quarts anymore and I was in at least 7 stores here in Tucson and couldn't find any. Maybe where you are at you would have better luck.
I have been thinking tho, maybe clear polyurathane would work. I have a bit and if I get time tomorrow I will see if it mixes with mineral spirits. If it does then we are in business again. Don't give up hope yet. Where there is a will, theres a way.
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Post by Roadking41a on May 23rd 2009, 8:09 pm

Rivethead wrote:Check out the Dodge Ram drag truck on the most recent page of the Moparts forum. This guy mixed Rustoleum Hunter Green and Alluminum and rolled it on. From the pictures it looks like he got a very convincing metallic with no striping from what I can tell. I know this won't work for your project because it won't match but for future projects...
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Have you got a link for that?
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Post by DSLStuff on March 17th 2010, 12:13 pm

That is my project he is talking about. There are now pictures on this website.

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