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Re: 1976 Mustang Cobra

Post by 78StangII on March 2nd 2011, 5:59 pm

Yea that's who I thought about going with also. My weatherstripping is brittle and falling apart. I was going to try and reuse them but there just no point.
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Post by T.Hadley on March 3rd 2011, 2:33 am

Finely done with what seemed like miles of under dash wiring.



I ran some 3/8 plastic hose behind the heater box to route the wires from the dash to the shifter area.



The aux fuse panel



neutral safety switch and back up lights.



Caught the boy doing work again.



And finely we got the dash back in the car.





And a little test fitting...



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Post by austin26372 on March 3rd 2011, 9:11 pm

Wiring - something I despise!

Coming along good. Very Happy
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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 4th 2011, 5:34 pm

The aux fuse panel is a life saver. That was one of the first things I added to my Falcon when I got it. On early Falcons the fuse box was part of the head light switch and it faced the driver side fender. So the only way to see the fuses let alone change one is to pull out the head light switch. Some engineer had a real brain fart when they designed that set up.
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Post by T.Hadley on March 9th 2011, 1:13 am

The stock water pump is cast iron and weighs a hefty 14.65 lbs, so we are going with an 82 mustang pump that only weighs 5.40 lbs.

But I need to make some spacers for the alt bracket, so here we are dry fitting everything to see what we need to do.





Got the water pump drive mounted, defiantly going to need a smaller crank pulley.





Started working on the mount for the TFI coil.




My friend Rick looked in his shop for crank pulleys for me, and found this one, it appears to be an aftermarket one, there are no part numbers on it anywhere.

So now we need a alt pulley to match, and we can put the engine and trans in the car.






Got the alt pulley from our friend Scott at the Rebuilder.
722 S Central, Kent, WA (253) 854-0904



Picked up a 33 1/4" belt on my way home from work today, and it looks like it's going to work out great.





I was finely able to get some more done on my coil mount. not complete but getting there.











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Post by rmdhokie on March 9th 2011, 10:43 pm

Looks great. You've got a gift for metal work. What's the expected HP?
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 9th 2011, 11:57 pm

Nice looking engine!

The '82 water pump is a reverse-rotation unit FYI, but with that drive system, it's only a matter of switching two wires. That is a very interesting setup.

What is the gizmo on the dizzy where the vacuum advance actuator used to be?
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Post by T.Hadley on March 10th 2011, 8:53 pm

rmdhokie wrote:Looks great. You've got a gift for metal work. What's the expected HP?


HMM, Well the motor should be making about 300-325 horsepower, so I'm thinking mid to low 13's and hoping for High 12's
Its really a fairly mild piece.

Stock bore and stroke 1995 302
9.8 to 1 compression
mild ported E7TE heads
Hooker headers
E-303 Roller cam
Roller rockers
Shelby intake
Custom 600 CFM Holley race carb
Electric water pump drive
Electric fuel pump
power steering delete
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Post by T.Hadley on March 10th 2011, 9:55 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:Nice looking engine!

The '82 water pump is a reverse-rotation unit FYI, but with that drive system, it's only a matter of switching two wires. That is a very interesting setup.

What is the gizmo on the dizzy where the vacuum advance actuator used to be?

I believe the one I got is standard rotation but now you are going to make me go check to be sure.

The gismo you refer to is a custom handle I made, as we don't use the vacuum advance, it's covered in here somewhere I think around page 7-8
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 10th 2011, 10:53 pm

If the pump is spec'ed for a car with a serpentine belt, then it's reverse rotation. My '82 GT was a serpentine belt, RR water pump car.

If the pump is for an LTD Crown Vic (or did they not make them that year?) then it might be a V belt standard rotation.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 10th 2011, 11:08 pm

Ah, a handle for timing adjustments.
I read that the night I discovered this site, along with every other "projects" thread...
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Post by Noah Zarq on March 11th 2011, 1:34 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:If the pump is spec'ed for a car with a serpentine belt, then it's reverse rotation. My '82 GT was a serpentine belt, RR water pump car.

If the pump is for an LTD Crown Vic (or did they not make them that year?) then it might be a V belt standard rotation.

They made the LTD/Crown Vic with the 302 (and 5.0) until 1990. It gets tricky; my `85 Crown Vic had a serpentine belt with normal rotation! It's best to double check.
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Post by 78StangII on March 11th 2011, 7:13 pm

The 302 in my Mustang II is from a late 80's model Crown Vic. with the serpentine belt. I had to get another water pump and wasn't thinking and ended up getting one for the 78 302. I didn't realize it until I already had it bolted on.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 12th 2011, 3:12 am

Noah Zarq wrote:They made the LTD/Crown Vic with the 302 (and 5.0) until 1990. It gets tricky; my `85 Crown Vic had a serpentine belt with normal rotation! It's best to double check.
They stopped making the big LTD for a few years in the early '80s when they started making the fox body LTDs, but they brought the big one back, and thereafter called it the Crown Vic IIRC.

With the electric drive, all you gotta do is run a hose from the pump to a bucket of water, devise a way to catch and drain the water coming out of the thermostat housing. Then run the pump, switch the wires 180, and see which way is better.


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Post by Noah Zarq on March 12th 2011, 8:27 am

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:They stopped making the big LTD for a few years in the early '80s when they started making the fox body LTDs, but they brought the big one back, and thereafter called it the Crown Vic IIRC.
Nope. They just changed the name from LTD to Crown Vic. There was a Fairmont-based LTD, a Torino-based LTD II, and the big old body-on-frame LTD / Crown Vic, all manufactured simultaneously. I had both a `79 and `85 LTD/ Crown Vic. Same car, but the later one had a fuel injected 302 with normal water pump and serpentine belt. The Mustangs had a reverse rotation water pump with their (different as night and day) serpentine belt.

As for an electric pump on the street, never seen it done. I bet it frees up a lot of horsepower!
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Post by T.Hadley on March 12th 2011, 2:27 pm

Are you confusing serpentine belt, with multi grove drive belts?

All the serpentine belt systems that I have seen run the water pump off of the back side of the belt, non grooved side, and that's why the need for the reverse rotation water pump.

Today I'm going to take mine off and double check it with the stock pump.

And yes it frees up a bunch of power, I don't remember where I read it but it said that a automotive water can pump a 55 gallon drum dry in 60 seconds @ 5000 RPM
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Post by T.Hadley on March 13th 2011, 2:29 am

Checked my water pump out, it is indeed a standard rotation pump.




Just some misc. pics of some stuff we been working on.

Rebuilt the pinion snubber fixed some cracked welds and put a new poly bump stop on.





put the car out side so we could prep the motor and trans to go in.



finished up the coil mount.







got the engine on the hook.



Mounted the starter and motor mounts, and bent up some new trans cooler lines.







The nice little 4" fan I got, made by road pro, it really moves some air for being so small.

The area in front of the fan will become a beverage holder.

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Post by 78StangII on March 13th 2011, 10:44 am

Who did you get your motor mounts from? Or, are you using the ones you had?
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Post by T.Hadley on March 13th 2011, 1:59 pm

78StangII wrote:Who did you get your motor mounts from? Or, are you using the ones you had?

They are the originals.

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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 13th 2011, 5:49 pm

The car is really looking great. Your son must be jumping out of his skin.
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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 15th 2011, 9:16 pm

did you use 18 or 20 gage sheet metal when you where making patches on the body? i have seen some guys use 22 but that seems a little on the thin side when welding.
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Post by T.Hadley on March 16th 2011, 12:48 am

63Falconconvert wrote:did you use 18 or 20 gage sheet metal when you where making patches on the body? i have seen some guys use 22 but that seems a little on the thin side when welding.

I used I believe 16 Gage 0.60 for most of the repairs but when I was repairing an area with a lot of bends, like the wheel well I would use 18 Gage.
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Post by RoboGeek on March 16th 2011, 8:11 pm

lovin it!
How soon before its done? I wanna ride! Razz
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Post by T.Hadley on March 17th 2011, 12:01 am

motor went in the car tonight, shooting for the first start up this Sunday, Not sure when it will be all done, hot rods really never are.

If you make it out here to the NW. you got a ride....

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Post by T.Hadley on March 20th 2011, 11:45 pm

My friends Terry {our engine sponsor} and my race partner Rick came over to lend a hand to get the Mustang fired up.

We had some small problems, but that is all part of the game when it comes to hot rods.

We got it fired up and it sounds great.













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