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Post by Milky on March 11th 2010, 5:11 pm

sooooo happy i found this site

ive spent the entire winter searching the net for forums and advice on giving my van the rustoleum job. ive got most of the materials to do the job....ive cleared the garage to paint the doors and anything else i can remove from the van .....now i just need the weather to improve so i can paint the rest of the van.

biggest problem is i use the van daily for my work (builder) so i will be doing most of my painting at the weekends.....when im not golfing !

some of the finishes i have seen on this site and others have totaly convinced me it is the right thing to do.the van is 96 merc sprinter with 170,000 miles on the clock and she runs like a dream.....and i love her !

the dream is to convert it to a camper or day van.....but that is for a later date.

ill upload some pictures at the weekend and if anyone wants to pitch in with any advice....feel free.

roll on spring !

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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 11th 2010, 5:21 pm

Welcome Kenny.....
We love pix...post all you want...we also like donuts too lol!
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Post by retired plumber on March 11th 2010, 7:48 pm

One donut = one answer lol! 63 falcon is right. We love pix. We also enjoy answering questions. Watch out tho, we also like to have fun here, hence the donut thing. That comes from a different post a couple of days ago. We're glad you found us too. welcome

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Post by stang_krazy on March 11th 2010, 11:10 pm

Welcome to rolled on Kenny

One donut per anwser is a pretty fair deal but a package gets brownie points!


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Post by retired plumber on March 12th 2010, 1:14 pm

Laughing Laughing Forgot about the brownie points.
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Post by RoboGeek on March 12th 2010, 7:18 pm

make mine pizza and beer.. donuts are for breakfast!

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Post by retired plumber on March 12th 2010, 11:20 pm

Donuts before and the beer and pizza after. Well, actually they all can be used as a bribe..............
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Post by Milky on March 20th 2010, 2:00 pm

just finished first coat to the rear doors....need better ventelation affraid

what is the best grade of wet n dry to use between coats and i mixed 750ml rustoleum with 5ooml of thinners.....is this ok or should i add more thinners ?

when i upload pictures ill start a thred in projects........donuts for those who assist ! :cheers
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Post by RoboGeek on March 20th 2010, 3:30 pm

mix should be good - you can adjust to your liking.

I used 400 for the lower coats.. 600 the closer I go to a final layer. At that point any scratches will be covered - its more to level the orange peel
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Post by Milky on March 21st 2010, 5:21 am

cant beleive how long it takes to dry......put some halogen heaters at the doors to try and cure the paint.......any other tips as i could do with getting another couple of coats on today so i can put the doors back on for work tomorrow

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Post by stang_krazy on March 21st 2010, 11:25 am

Milky wrote:cant beleive how long it takes to dry......put some halogen heaters at the doors to try and cure the paint.......any other tips as i could do with getting another couple of coats on today so i can put the doors back on for work tomorrow

cheers
Found this the other day, will be trying it out also.
http://rolledon.forummotion.com/bodywork-preparation-f10/rustoleum-advice-t367.htm
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Post by Milky on March 21st 2010, 7:52 pm

thanks stang.....just called my mate who is an engineer at BA glasgow and hes getting me some hardener 2moro.

ill let you know how well it works
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Post by Milky on March 22nd 2010, 4:49 pm

used the hardener tonight and it cures in about 4 hrs.

i have already mixed my paint with thinners and have it stored ready for use. when i am painting i pour the required amount into ajug and add the hardener add this point. didnt think it would be wise to add it to the whole lot incase it went off ! i will add a bit more hardener to my paint tomoro to see if i can get ti to cure in abou 2 hrs !

i am slowly learning the merits of patience !
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Post by RoboGeek on March 22nd 2010, 6:35 pm

I'm thinking hardener should maybe be a part of any of these paint jobs. We may have to change it to the $75 paint job.. lol
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Post by stang_krazy on March 22nd 2010, 8:30 pm

Milky wrote:used the hardener tonight and it cures in about 4 hrs.

i have already mixed my paint with thinners and have it stored ready for use. when i am painting i pour the required amount into ajug and add the hardener add this point. didnt think it would be wise to add it to the whole lot incase it went off ! i will add a bit more hardener to my paint tomoro to see if i can get ti to cure in abou 2 hrs !

i am slowly learning the merits of patience !

I don't know about adding to much hardener to get it to dry faster. I remember reading or hearing that if you add to much it can cause your paint to start crackin and chip easyer, and something else that could be bad but can't remember. Can't really be for sure and give any info because I haven't even tried this type auto painting yet or spraying besides the old rattle can type, maybe one of the others can chim in on this subject that knows for sure.

But Glad your keeping us informed on your findings, be waiting for more info and pics! thumbs up
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Post by RoboGeek on March 22nd 2010, 8:58 pm

My goal would be a hard coat every day. You could paint a bit thicker then.

Once again.. experimenting!
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Post by retired plumber on March 23rd 2010, 12:27 am

It would be interesting to see what different amounts of hardner would do. The reason for this is because it is being used way out of its designed area (mineral spirits). Yes, it still makes it hard but it's not designed for M.S. and rusto so who knows how far it can go.

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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 23rd 2010, 8:45 am

I would be careful with the hardener. When I use to spray enamel, the mix was 4:1:1, 4 parts paint, 1 part reducer, 1 part hardener. Because a roll job needs to have the paint thin like milk, I would use a 4;4:1 ratio. Too much hardener will cause the paint to dry to fast not letting the reducer escape.
But then again, "rolling" is all about flying by the seat of your pants, so who knows more may be better.
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Post by Milky on March 23rd 2010, 1:29 pm

i will go conny with the hardener then ! just remember guys this is my works van and anything looks better than rust !

i have a few wrinkles in areas because i applied some primer on top of rustoleum......im learning the hard way !

i am wet sanding one of the doors tonight and painting the other ready for wet sand tomorrow ......pictures to follow Very Happy
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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 23rd 2010, 4:00 pm

can you post some pics of the wrinkles. I would like to see that. What kind of primer did you use? Was the Rusto not cured when you put primer over the top of it.
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Post by Milky on March 23rd 2010, 4:32 pm

sorry falcon by the time i read your post i have wet sanded and re coated the doors but i will do it again when i paint my next panel on the van so you cansee it.......as far as the hardener goes it does seem to cure alot quicker. i painted some areas on the doors where it was abit bare at 1.00pm and i was able to paint the entire door at 6.00pm with no problems.

for the wet sandin i used a brush attachment for the hose and 600 grit .....place was flooded but made a good job. i found the next coat went on really well.

should get both doors back on tomorrow night.....ill post pictures then.

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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 24th 2010, 8:16 am

no problem....gald you're making good progress.
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Post by Milky on March 25th 2010, 1:35 pm

i had to put the doors back on the van today and they have only had 4 coats and one wet sand.........and today it was pissing down !
i spoted a few runs and the orange peel is quite bad but i havent wet sanded after coat 4 so that should take care of it.

i have to remember it is a work horse and it is an improvement as you will see when i post the photos at the weekend. i need the weather to improve and i can get a few more coats on the doors without taking them off again. i think it is going to be a slow process but it will be worth it.
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Post by 63Falconconvert on March 25th 2010, 1:37 pm

what color are you rolling?
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Post by Milky on March 25th 2010, 2:30 pm

rolling white basicly to perfect the technique......and then next year.......yellow !!!!! with tinted windows.
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