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Post by Neonasty on May 5th 2010, 11:44 pm

Hey all!

Glad I stumbled across this site. Its given me confidence to do some home body work on my project car.

I have a couple of cars and everytime I wash them Im always disapointed to find new chips, scratches or crappy work from previous re sprays. Ive decided to do my own paint work so it can be repaired easily. That and cost. The Mrs and I are buying a house and there is no way I can justify thousands on a paint job for a project car, or even one of the cars that get driven daily.

I bought a 1964 Toyota crown of a guy I met through a car club. For a car thats 45 years old its in great condition! I havnt been able to find any real rust (yet!) and the engine was strong when it was taken for a drive. Well, as strong as a 1.9 Liter 4 cylinder can be! Its been pulled apart for a new waterpump at the moment.

I have a month off work in a week, so Ive decided to paint the car, it needs some bog work, so I'll have to learn that first to straighten out the panels, then my plan is to lay on a coat in the morning, let it sit for 24 hours, then the next morning I"ll sand it down and lay another coat, or every second coat. Have to see how it goes. Time is the one thing that I have, no skils, not much money but Im willing to learn and have a crack at it.

EDIT: I forgot to say the Mrs and I are still deciding what colour to paint it. My vote is for either white or gloss black, but shes all for orange.. After seeing others on here with it Im swinging to orange too, just now sure how it'll look with the chrome.

I know everyone loves pics, so heres a few of when I brought it home.






After I polished the grille by hand with Brasso: Much better!
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Post by retired plumber on May 6th 2010, 1:40 am

Welcome

Thats a nice looking car. If you spent all that time to use basso by hand to do your grill and headlight trim I am sure you won't have any problem with the car.

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Post by Neonasty on May 6th 2010, 2:45 am

Thanks for your confidence. Ive actually polished about 50% of the chrome trims by hand now. I take a piece in to work on night shift and if we're quiet I grab the brasso and spend some quality time with it.

Ive got some more pics showing the condition of the paint work.

I believe the car used to be red, or thats some sort of primer used before it was turned the greenish colour it is now. However Under the bonnet however is a fair amount of gold, so who knows if thats from another car or what!?...

From what Ive read and pics Ive seen online I can basically remove the entire front end bodywork and engine and really get into the bay for a good cleaning and respray. Prob with POR15 or something like it.

All of the chrome on the doors is damaged and it occured to me perhaps I should fill the holes and make the car smooth, but that 60s chrome everywhere look is pretty cool. What does everyone else think?









Remnants of the original vinyl roof. I'll take the rest of that off, clean it up and paint it gloss black.
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Post by mapexgurl on May 6th 2010, 12:22 pm

Welcome! Looks like a great project.
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Post by RoboGeek on May 6th 2010, 7:47 pm

welcome to the forums!

Its amazing the diversity in cars and people we have here!
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Post by 63Falconconvert on May 7th 2010, 8:53 am

Greetings from Rochester NY.....great looking ride!!!
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Post by retired plumber on May 7th 2010, 4:38 pm

When you take the vinyl off the roof be sure you check around the top of the front window for rust out damage. From your picture there looks to be a bit. Just a heads up.

I am a old lead sledder from the late 50s-early 60s era so I would take the chrome off but filling the holes is a lot of work, especially if done right and welded shut. Also, how hard will it be to find good replacement pieces? you might get new chrome generic stick on stuff from the auto parts store tho that would look ok. Depends on if you want to stay stock or not also. Your choice but there are a couple of things to think about.

If you deside you want to fill your holes with "bondo" I can walk you through that also as I have been using it for longer then you have been alive LOL. I "have" restored a couple of pieces of stainless trim by CAREFULLY tapping on the dents with a LIGHT hammer and several custom shapped pieces of hardwood I made. Took a while and altho definately NOT show quality, good enough for a D.D.

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Post by Neonasty on May 8th 2010, 4:41 am

Thanks all,

Mike: I didnt realise that the chrome could be repaired at home decently. I have all the pieces there but they require straightening and removing dints. Some of them have been pitted by rust. The rear bumper has some dents in it aswell. I have found a shop that specialises in repairing and re-chroming bumpers. I'll take the items down to them and see what the quote. You can even see where a previous owner used a self tapper screw to hold it in place! smash

I had considered the problem with the vinyl on the roof and rust. I took that pic as it looks like the spot with the worst oxidization. I'll remove the chrome trim and take away the rest of the vinyl and see the damage. I plan to remove all the rust I find and try to use bondo to smooth what I cant fix properly. Im meeting up with a friend who has a little experience with bondo. So I'll call on him to pass the knowledge over.

Before I do any painting or body work I'll need to make some space in the garage. Then I'll remove all the trim I can, then headlights etc etc. I've found a local source for International Brightside Gloss paints. So I'll go past them and pick up what I need, then all the other bits and pieces I need. Then practice, practice practice.

Looks like we have decided on a gloss black all over. I think it'll look great with the chrome pieces all fitted and looking spick and span.

Have a good weekend all.
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Post by Neonasty on May 8th 2010, 4:48 am

I found a pic of exactly what Im after:

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Post by JohnnyV on May 8th 2010, 8:07 pm

I always liked those old toyotas. You just don't see those around here (Indiana). I like the 66 Corolla. Very nice car!
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Post by retired plumber on May 9th 2010, 4:42 pm

Nice looking old car. Looks like it has been lowered a bit also.

About your chrome. You can straighten it but it will have to be rechromed to get rid of the pits you know. When I did mine (it was stainless steel tho) I took hardwood dowels and shapped the ends to match the shape of the trim and verrrry carefully started tapping. There are places that will do that for you also but they cost big $$$. If interested try Hemmings.

I never really cared for vinyl roofs. They will fade and dry out and then they crack and let water in. The water will then acumulate at the low spots and rust. This is usually around the window frames (of course) and may require removel of the glass to fix. If that is your worst spot, you may get lucky because it dosen't look too bad but ,yes give it a good look.

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Post by Neonasty on May 12th 2010, 4:54 am

Well work has started.

Today I spent a few hours removing trim. Lights are out, Its all labeled and I'll start polishing it in my downtime (when the Mrs is watching Master chef).


I removed the headlights, rear lights, indicators, front bumper, and rubber from the boot ( it was very perished so I'll find something that'll suit ).



Good news, no rust around the windows!


Bad news, rust found around the rear lights. I wiped it down with some rust converted and hopefully by morning it will have done its thing and I can begin to sand and prime.


I also found some rust under the chrome trims. Shouldnt be hard to sand down and patch up. Any idea on how to get rid of that rubber/glue mess? I havnt been able to find my citrus acid and am a little nervous about using it on something I plan on painting later.




I purchased some things needed: Prep wash, 400, 800, 1200 and 1500 grit sand paper, a sanding block, Gloves, Stop putty and primer filler. $60 spent so far. Sure its not going to be a $50US paint job, but Id rather spend more and do it right. Hopefully going to pick up 2 Liters of International Brightside Gloss Black, and 2 liters of Mineral Spirit.



I see that the store sells International Enamel Thinners #1. Would that do instead of the mineral spirit?
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