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20 years in a barn, then a roller Paint Job? Opel GT!

Post by JimVonBaden on May 26th 2010, 11:00 pm

OK, so every since I found this car in a barn last year I have been thinking a rolled paint job would be the ticket. I live in a townhouse where it would be nearly impossible to spray paint it, and I never liked letting anyone else work on my vehicles.

So, to unveil the project:


20 years sitting in a barn. The left front is damaged:



And the right door is badly dented.



On top of that, each of the four corners is rusted through, and the body needs a lot of attention:



On a trailer for the 80 mile ride home, and through a spray car wash at 28:



The paint is surprisingly decent, despite the layers of dust and neglect.



Amazingly, I had it running in a few hours, and MUCH work later it was drivable with all rubber parts replaced, brakes and bearings replaced, and a new battery and carb.

I did a bit of bodywork, just to make the headlights work and door window work.





Motor cleaned up, and I took it on a 230 mile trip to Carlisle for the Import and Kit Car show, with 53 other Opels!





How it looks now, just before the start of the real bodywork:


At this point I have about $2000 into it, with parts and the cost of the car. It runs great, but looks like a pile of junk.

Time to get started on the rust and bodywork. This won't go fast, but I will present updates as I go. My intent is to paint it with Safety Red, or another similar color. I have done test panels, and think I can do a decent job.

I want to thank all those who came before me in their willingness to share their experiences. I hope I can do half the job some here have done!

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Post by T.Hadley on May 27th 2010, 8:44 am

Nice find Jim, I will be following along...
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Post by 63Falconconvert on May 27th 2010, 2:40 pm

That is one sweet ride! Looks great in the pics you posted.
What bolt pattern is on your Opel 4 1/2"?
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Post by JimVonBaden on May 27th 2010, 5:55 pm

T.Hadley wrote:Nice find Jim, I will be following along...

Thanks! Being my 10th Opel, and 9th GT, I have a bit of experience with it.

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Post by JimVonBaden on May 27th 2010, 5:57 pm

63Falconconvert wrote:That is one sweet ride! Looks great in the pics you posted.
What bolt pattern is on your Opel 4 1/2"?

Thanks,

It is 10 foot paint. Looks good at 10 feet. The rust, plus many dings and paint bubbles, make it kind of ugly up close. I hope to make it much nicer in the future! I will try to post the progress as I go. Now that I have the majority of the mechanical work done, the body is next.

The wheels are 4X100 13".

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Post by JimVonBaden on May 29th 2010, 9:01 pm

Got a little done today, in addition to the mechanical stuff.



Not a lot of damage to the door, but several door dings required me to add a skim coat of Bondo. I flat boarded it, then hit it with a DA with 150 grit, then two layers of filler putty, then 400 and 600 grit paper before priming.



This is the closest to the actual color, regent red.





I painted the edges with spray paint for simplicity. It came out amazingly well!






I mixed the primer with 1/3 red, 2/3 primer, then added an additional 1/3 of mineral spirits. I was hoping for a little darker primer. I am afraid the red on red for the body wont cover the same as the pinkish primer. I have a take-off part in the original car color that I will check with when I do the door.

I rolled on one coat only, and it was a little thick. We shall see if the thickness results in orange peal, but it definitely seems to be covering up all the sanding marks. Even as primer, when wet, it has a great shine!

I'll pop in in a few hours and take a few more photos.

So far I am happy.

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Post by retired plumber on May 29th 2010, 10:50 pm

That door looks good and has a nice shine allready.
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Post by T.Hadley on May 29th 2010, 11:10 pm

Your off to a great start.
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Post by JimVonBaden on May 31st 2010, 5:42 pm

Yesterday I added a second coat of primer to build it up a bit.

So today I sanded down the primer and put on my first coat of color. I used a 60/40 paint/mineral spirits mix. Since I primed the door first, the coverage was great right off. I got no runs, and a million bubbles.




You can see that the wet paint covered well, and with no flash you can see the shine is great wet. I wasn't too worried about the bubbles, I knew/hoped they would all pop.




With the flash you can see the coverage isn't as good as it looked, but is great for one coat. No flash and the coverage is fantastic!





An hour later the paint is dry to the touch, and the bubbles are gone. The paint looks great, still shiney, and I am quite happy with it. I will be putting on the second coat tonight.

My only concerns are that my prep work wasn't good enough. I can see a few sanding marks, faintly. I hope that subsequent coats will cover them as I sand them and recoat.

I prepped with 400 grit before primer, then 400 after two coats of primer. I plan to wet sand after the next coat with 500 grit, then 800 on the next two coats.

So far so good!

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Post by JimVonBaden on June 2nd 2010, 8:07 pm

Coats 3 and four.

The first two coats went on well, good coverage over the primer two coats. Does that mean I am on coat 5-6?

Anyhow, I sanded the 2-3 color coat with 500-600 grit wet. Then applied the 3rd and 4th color coat. 50/50 mix, fairly dry roller with no runs so far.



If you look closely you can see some fairly faint sanding marks on coat 3 dry. They are definitely getting covered as the coats add up, and the sanding grit get's finer.





These photos illustrate the wet 4th coat. The shine doesn't go away much as it dries, though sanding marks tend to come out a bit. I am confident the polishing phase will smooth it all out, and add shine. I have almost no orange peel, certainly within acceptable range for me.

The color of the spray on jam paint is getting closer and closer, as illustrated above, and I am confident that coverage will be good, though I think I will primer the whole car when the time comes.

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Post by Squire Cobra Jet on June 4th 2010, 1:22 am

Looking good so far. thumbs up
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Post by retired plumber on June 5th 2010, 8:21 pm

When refering to coats, they are talking about color, not primer but I'm sure you figured that out already. Laughing
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Post by JimVonBaden on June 6th 2010, 11:13 am

retired plumber wrote:When refering to coats, they are talking about color, not primer but I'm sure you figured that out already. Laughing
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Yeah, I was just kind of funning. The two primer coats are as much, or more, work as the color coats. Greatly assists in coverage though.

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Post by retired plumber on June 7th 2010, 7:59 pm

I just wish every body could understand about the coverage over primer. I have been painting for over 40 years and know how different color react, especially if there are several under colors. It WILL effect the top color. It dosen't even have to be primer, as long as its all one LIGHT color.
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Post by JimVonBaden on July 5th 2010, 2:46 pm

I've been pretty busy with other Opel projects: My Opel GT rebuild log!

Anyhow, using Rustoleum I have done these two projects:

Made this, right valve cover nasty:


Into this:


And too apart my steering rack and went from this, bottom behind the door:


To this:



Lots of work also being done on the link above, and much more to come.

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Post by JimVonBaden on July 18th 2010, 11:57 pm

Coat number 9. I think I finally got the method and paint right.






Looks even better in person, and will polish out great!

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Post by T.Hadley on July 19th 2010, 12:12 am

Looking really nice...
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Post by JimVonBaden on July 27th 2010, 9:37 pm

So, a week after I did my last coat on my test door. I admit I was feeling a bit disappointed. The paint had great coverage, and a nice shine, but LOTS of rough spots. Bubbles, dirt, a couple small runs. I just couldn't see how it would all come out looking sprayed on and clean, and was contemplating a spray job instead.

This, until, I used some 2000 grit wet paper and the Meguires Pro Polish with my low speed HF rotary polisher and polishing pad, also HF.

Oh my heck, what an incredible transformation. The 2000 grit paper took all the junk off the paint, but left it flat with zero shine. Like a nice flat red paint job. Hit it with the polisher, light pressure, sparing polish, and run it in for 2-3 minutes. Then switch to the buffing pad, and ****!

No point in trying to post a picture, I just did a square foot or so, but it is absolutely stunning. I have not seen this good of a shine on any new car, and few aftermarket paint jobs!

I am off on Friday, and will do half the door with a tape line. (I know, it is risky for leaving a mark, but I have to know.) I will then take some photos in the sun and see if I can get the difference to show!

I can totally see doing the whole car, and having it look great! I just hope my bodywork can compare to the paint! There is a lot to do!

Needless to say I am stoked! applaude thumbs up

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Post by mapexgurl on July 28th 2010, 12:21 am

Can't wait!
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Post by JimVonBaden on July 28th 2010, 7:42 pm

I took some time over the last few weeks to paint my valve cover too. I have a picture of the nasty original here.


Right side verticle. Ugh!

Anyhow, this is how Rustoleum comes out on a valve cover with partly roll and partly foam brush on paint.

I did sand it with 2000 grit, though the brush marks still show slightly, but it looks great to me!










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Post by 63Falconconvert on July 29th 2010, 8:05 am

very cool... thumbs up looks like it was sprayed.
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Post by JimVonBaden on July 30th 2010, 2:40 pm

So,

Finally had a chance to polish up the paint on my door!

Looks good. Here are the steps:


I used this HF polisher on the lowest speed setting.


I taped off half to illustrate the differences. I also hit the paint with 2000 grit wet sandpaper first.


I started with rubbing compound and took several passes. Keep it moving, and use no extra pressure past what it takes to control the buffer.

I used the rubbing/cutting foam pad from HF that came with the polisher.

Then I hit it wish Meguires Pro Polish and the polishing pad I purchased from HF, see the first photo.


Finally I used a buffing pad, also from HF, and cleaned up the polishing. Make sure, before you use the buffing pad, that all the polish is dry, and extra polish is removed from around the door edges and openings, or you will have to repolish, and clean your buffing pad.

Finally I rubbed the surface clean with a cotton cloth, old clean T-shirt:




With that done, as you see, the polish makes the job.

OK, so now I attack the rest of the door.

Notice the paint imperfections, even after 2000 grit wet sanding? Prep is the key, and I didn't do enough on this door, despite KNOWING I needed to.


Rubbing compound to clean up the rest of the defects and minor scratches. Used the rubbing compound pad. Do NOT mix pads. Once used, keep using that pad for that function.


Polishing compound and the polishing pad.


Buffing after the polishing compound dried.


After buffing and wipe down.





The finished product in the sun, after a coat of Turtle Wax hard shell. The shine, and depth of color are great!


The finish only lacks where I did not do sufficient prep, and a couple bumps and sand marks show through. I will do better on the rest of the car.

Anyhow, I am very happy, and am about to start on the hood next. The rest of the car must be done on the car, and will wait until I finish the bodywork. I will post some of that as well.

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Post by T.Hadley on July 30th 2010, 3:56 pm

Jim, that looks really nice, I love red cars....
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Post by Squire Cobra Jet on July 30th 2010, 4:37 pm

Great demonstration of the difference before and after polish.
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Post by mrmri on July 31st 2010, 2:32 pm

Looks great!
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