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Post by snafu on August 21st 2010, 11:22 pm

Here's my current project. It's a '91 S10 4.3L with over 200K on the clock. I should retire it, but I love this truck and it still runs good.

It doesn't look bad here, but the factory paint on the roof is peeling. Also, its been in two accidents and neither body shop repair was very good.



Roof. 1991 was not a good year for GM paint.



The right fender was replaced and the body shop blended the paint into the door and hood. It began flaking off after a couple of years. I removed the rest of the poor body shop paint with a razor blade. The window channels came out as they need to be replaced anyway.


I removed the rear window so I could get a better finish and I wanted to check for rust. This truck has never been garaged, so I was happy to see this.



The factory primer is holding up well, but the factory paint doesn't seem to have a good bond with the primer, especially on the top surfaces. The paint on the lower areas was holding up better. I sanded with 180 grit to remove the paint. I probably didn't need to remove this much, but I don't want my new paint falling off.



Left fender was replaced on another occasion. The paint was fine so I didn't remove it, but there's a dent from a parking lot hit-and-run that will need some work.


This is the paint I'll be using. It looks like a pretty close match so I'm hoping to avoid painting the doorjambs.



That's all I have for now. Body work is next. I have just a few small dents to deal with and no rust so I should be rolling pretty soon.




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Post by retired plumber on August 22nd 2010, 9:54 pm

All cars of that era seemed to have bad paint, especially chrysler. You were right to take off any paint that you were leary of and good call on the windows also. They come out and go back pretty easy and once rust gets started in the channel it is hard to see it and it WILL SPREAD QUICKLY. Color looks like a pretty good match. Good luck
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Post by snafu on August 24th 2010, 9:53 pm

Since the hood is attached to the fenders on S10s, I removed it in anticipation of removing this fender to work out the dent. I was able to get to it from behind so I didn't need to remove the fender. This was the only major damage. Other than this, I just had a few shallow dings to fill. After I got my filler smooth, I dry sanded the entire truck with 400 before putting primer on.



This is the filler I'm using left over from the Cougar project. It came highly recommended and it sands out very nice.



Here's the primer going on. I'm using XO Rust, which is my hardware store's version of Rustoleum. I'm applying primer anywhere I have bare metal or body filler. I'll apply one more primer coat, sand, then cover everything with Brightside Pre-Kote.



Here's the bucket I use when I'm rolling. I started our with a tray on my fist project and ended up spilling a lot of paint before I found this.



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Post by snafu on December 2nd 2010, 7:35 pm

Well I hoped to finish before it got too cold but I only made it to the urethane primer.
This picture is from a couple months back. The truck is now just sitting in the garage until it warms up next spring.

I like driving the old truck in the winter and I miss not having it now. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Roadking41a on December 2nd 2010, 10:29 pm

It's a good start.
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Post by LARRYBOMB on December 7th 2010, 1:27 pm

I was wondering what kind of sander you used in your preparation work. Just any old palm/orbital sander will do? I'm guessing you don't sand by hand until you start laying paint down. Also how did you put your primer on did you roll it on or spray it on? Well your trucks looks good so far. Good luck on the paint.
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Post by snafu on December 8th 2010, 10:57 am

Thanks for the comments guys.

I rolled the primer on. Spraying might save a little time, but I'm not in a hurry.

I've just been sanding by hand to this point, but I may try an orbital sander. I really hate sanding and thats probably the only reason this one isn't done yet. My Cougar project was hand sanded the whole way, but I was highly motivated to finish that one.
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Post by snafu on December 8th 2010, 11:01 am

I just noticed imageshack is losing my pictures.

Can anyone recommend a good hosting service?
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Post by ANeat on December 8th 2010, 11:40 am

Ive had good luck with photobucket
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Post by Roadking41a on December 8th 2010, 12:37 pm

I use photobucket as well.
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Post by rustycarr on December 9th 2010, 2:06 pm

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Post by CheapRanger on March 13th 2011, 3:58 am

Warmer weather is arriving, Bump to the top.
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Post by 78StangII on March 13th 2011, 10:38 am

retired plumber wrote:All cars of that era seemed to have bad paint, especially chrysler. You were right to take off any paint that you were leary of and good call on the windows also. They come out and go back pretty easy and once rust gets started in the channel it is hard to see it and it WILL SPREAD QUICKLY. Color looks like a pretty good match. Good luck
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You got that right Mike. Every Chrysler mini van I've had the paint always started peeling at the top.
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Post by 78StangII on March 13th 2011, 10:39 am

Looking good safu. I think you made a good choice on keeping the S-10. Myself, I've always liked those year S10's the best.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 13th 2011, 9:42 pm

I love those Torque Thrust wheels too.
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Post by retired plumber on March 14th 2011, 8:36 pm

I remember reading somewhere it was a problem with the bond between the primer and paint. It was a long time ago so I don't remember the particulars. All the cars from that era had some of it but Chryslers seemed to be the worst for some reason huh
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Post by snafu on March 15th 2011, 3:26 pm

Thanks for the bump guys.

I haven't touched the truck all winter. Its been creeping into the low 50's here and I really need to get going on this. I may do some sanding this weekend. I'll put up some pictures when I start making progress.
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Post by snafu on April 25th 2011, 10:23 am

We finally had some decent weather and I was able to get one coat of paint on. After I started, I realized, I didn't have any brushes, so I just painted what I could get to with the roller.







My initial impression is that this paint covers very well. I'm not sure if that's due to the paint, or if red covers better than white. It also seems like this paint it is not nearly as glossy as Brightside.

We're back to our winter weather today, so I may not have any updates for awhile. Neutral
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Post by austin26372 on April 26th 2011, 11:57 pm

Gloss will come with layers and the final buff. The color looks nice
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Post by retired plumber on April 28th 2011, 12:15 am

The darker colors do cover better. More paint and a buff and it should shine like a ruby.
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Post by snafu on May 10th 2011, 10:41 am

Here it is after three coats.





After sanding with 600.





This paint is covering really well. I purchased three quarts based on my experience with the Cougar, and it looks like I'll have at least one full quart left over.

My plan for now:

Three coats
Sand with 800 grit
Two or three final coats
Final sand beginning with 1500 or 1000 if needed
Polish

Here's the cougar at a car show a couple of weeks ago.

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on May 10th 2011, 2:54 pm

Looking good. I might have used that color if I would have found it. It would have saved me some work...
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Post by craigsnedeker on May 17th 2011, 3:08 pm

Looks really great!
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Post by snafu on May 18th 2011, 10:32 am

The pictures probably don't look much different, but I am making some progress. Here it is after four coats with no sanding. The paint is laying down really flat with virtually no orange peel even after four coats. I would like to keep going, but I have a lot of trash in the paint, so I'll stop here and sand with 800.





I'm a little dissapointed in the lack of gloss. The Brightside almost acts like it has a built-in clearcoat paint and it retains a wet look after it dries. In fact, I had to be very careful not to miss spots on the Cougar, because the dry paint looks so wet.

The Petit paint is easier to work with though. With Brightside, it's good to have a helper with a dry roller to flatten the bubbles and catch runs. With Petit, I can just keep rolling it until it flattens. It seems a little stickier and runs have not been a problem.

Also, I can go back and work areas that have started to dry. Once the Brighside starts to set up, you have to let it be or you'll have a mess.

Finally, the Petit paint doesn't eat up the brushes like Brightside. I've used the same roller and foam brush for four coats. I just left the roller in the paint tray covered with saran wrap and wrapped the brush up. With Brightside. I would have to use a new roller and brush every coat as it would start to dissolve the foam and leave crumbs everywhere.

I got some new window channels from rockauto. These guys cost more than my paint job!



I'll need to make a junkyard run to pick up some misc. fasteners the bodyshop guys left off. Also I need to replace the side moldings. I thought of leaving them off, but I now think they should go back on. I was going to put in a bedliner, but I may paint the bed since I'll have some paint left over. I have seven coats on the truck now and I'm still on my first quart of paint!
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Post by craigsnedeker on May 18th 2011, 10:36 am

it really looks good!
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