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Post by DaveB on November 10th 2010, 2:25 pm

Hey, I'm a usual lurker and have done 2 projects prior but I decided I would participate a little on my current project. Appreciate the forum, pics, motivation and hints.

I have to remind myself to take pics, and so far I don't have many, but I am going to try harder from here forth.

My project is a 1995 Chevy pickup, regular cab short bed. It was white, I picked it up cheap with the good ole GM flaking paint of those years, some bad tires and wheels, and big miles. It had solid rockers and 1 solid corner and 1 that needed a very small patch. Thats pretty good for this year of chevy truck. Also the previous roll pan wasnt prepped or painted on the back so it had turned to swiss cheese. All told that helped me get it at a good price. I had been looking for one of these with a semi solid body and a V8 for quite awhile.

I flaked off the loose paint which was a large amount.. then sanded a lot more off. When finally getting to an area that I believed to be solid I feathered it out then did the bodywork which basically was dings. I did catch a crease at a store parking lot a few weeks back, I was glad it happened now instead of later. Then I painted and sanded a few coats of Rusto white primer.

This is the first project I've used Penetrol and I love it. The first coat looked and felt awesome. This morning though I got a BUTTload of air bubbles, more than I've ever experienced. Not sure what I did, used the same mix.. about 50/50 with a splash of extra dilute in the pan, but I light rolled em all down (over and over and over) and it looks good now, but not as good as coat 1. Still, much better than any time before penetrol and will be a breeze to wetsand. Supposed to light rain tomorrow, if it was warmer I'd just go stand in it and sand, wouldnt be the first time! Smile

I'll figure out my long lost photo host passwords and get some pics goin after I figure it out again. Wanted to get involved and say HI.
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Post by mapexgurl on November 10th 2010, 3:36 pm

hi Welcome!

Sounds like a good project. I look forward to the photos.
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by DaveB on November 10th 2010, 4:31 pm

Well let me try this. For one, if it works they are huge pics so I will post a couple then figure out how to reduce them.

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Lets see how that works. Thats 2 coats on the painted parts. I usually try to work a whole project but I had body work and metal exposed that I wanted to cover, not knowing when I could get to the rest.


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Post by Mig's87 on November 10th 2010, 9:17 pm

Hey bro, Im almost at the point you are getting ready to paint. I was just wondering, are you using mineral spirits at all, and how is the paint drying fast/slow/same as the MS?
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Post by Gobeavs on November 10th 2010, 9:33 pm

Chevy standard cab, 2 wheel drive, shortbox, lowered with a V8!...It don't get any better than that for a cruiser!!....Luv the pics, they turned out fine. I had an 89 in that same setup and it was the best pickup I ever had!!...The black is gonna look great, gonna take a lotta coats maybe?....Good luck, I hope to get back to my Ranger soon!!!
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 11th 2010, 1:52 am

Are you cloning a 454SS? That's what I would do, and it looks like you're well on your way.
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by DaveB on November 11th 2010, 10:46 am

Hey, I got replies! lol I knew it would probably help and motivate me more to converse with like minded folks. Thanks for the compliments.

About the mineral spirits.. yea,I'm still using a little bit. I put some in the roller pan, then ad my 50/50 mix of paint and penetrol. I probably end up at 40/60 paint to thinners. I guess the reason I do that is I've come to the conclusion that it needs to be really thin. When you think you're just right.... thin a little more. And I think it dries better and faster this way, tho it is a B**** to keep it on a vertical surface sometimes. Thats where the light lay out comes into play.

About the 454 cloning... BUSTED. I've had a pic of 2 low'd out 454s as wallpaper for about 6 months. I love the look.
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by Caleb on November 11th 2010, 9:38 pm

It took me about 4 coats to get the coats the right thickness on my sides! I kept putting to much paint on the roller! I've had to go back and flatten some sags and runs, but it all has worked out so far.
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Post by Poppashango on November 13th 2010, 7:45 pm

Looks like you are off to a good start! Once you get the right mix of paint and technique down, you will find it easier. At least that's how it worked for me! Keep at it. It looks great!
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Post by T.Hadley on November 15th 2010, 9:13 pm

The only times I ever had lots of bubbles was when I got the mix to thin.

ITS LOOKIN GOOD! Black is a very hard color to do, but so worth it. Laughing
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 16th 2010, 12:49 am

T.Hadley wrote:The only times I ever had lots of bubbles was when I got the mix to thin.

ITS LOOKIN GOOD! Black is a very hard color to do, but so worth it. Laughing
No doubt, that's why I'm strongly considering black for my Stang.
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Post by ANeat on November 16th 2010, 12:42 pm

Looks great, heck leave it two tone and go for the old police car theme Wink
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by DaveB on November 18th 2010, 2:19 pm

A couple things.. I was putting my left over paint back in the can. I forgot it was diluted just a wee bit more, and hence when painting and diluting again, was getting TOO thin. So, proper mix and no more excessive bubbles! A few sure, but that is under control.

I was concerned about how long it would take to dry as this is my first non-summer job. It seems to be drying ok, if only slightly slower. I did notice today as it rained last nite, that in the beading of the water on the hood, the beads all had white dots in them. Upon looking closer it was tiny clusters of air bubbles, obviously the paint gassing off. Was kind of interesting to see. My last coat was Monday, I was too busy to paint this week. I feel I could have sanded yesterday, it was very dry to the touch, but obviously as of today is still gassing, even at my thin mixture. Good to know. Might delay my final color sand and polish.. maybe not. My final thought is maybe I'll do my last couple coats with a hardner, after an extended dry time on the non-hardner coats. Shrug. Thoughts?
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Post by bla1979 on November 19th 2010, 11:15 am

Adding an enamel hardner to a rolling job might prevent it from leveling out as well> i may be wrong but? when i was spraying with a hardner i had a run in the paint and it started to tack so fast that i couldnt even roll it out with a paint/mineral spirits mixed wet roller it just started sticking to the car. Let me know if you try it???
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Post by mapexgurl on November 19th 2010, 2:12 pm

bla1979 wrote:Adding an enamel hardner to a rolling job might prevent it from leveling out as well> i may be wrong but? when i was spraying with a hardner i had a run in the paint and it started to tack so fast that i couldnt even roll it out with a paint/mineral spirits mixed wet roller it just started sticking to the car. Let me know if you try it???

I think you're correct about adding hardener to the paint causing it to set up too quickly. I have thought about using a heat gun to lightly go over a panel after it has dried over night. (Not too much because it will take paint off.) I got a cheap one from Harbor Freight. I've already used it to dry primer quickly on some smaller parts. Works well if you don't let it get too hot.
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by DaveB on November 29th 2010, 3:45 pm

Some pic updates. I've gotten the truck squared away.. meaning I'm working on the WHOLE truck as one piece instead of being here or there on different pieces.
I also welded in a roll pan for the first time and I'm glad I did. I always worried about towing or going back to bumpers, but this truck has a hidden hitch behind the license plate, and air bags, so it should be good to go.
This is 4 coats, about an hour out so its in various stages of drying, probably sand next weekend, spose to be warmer.. playing the weather game.
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Post by Roadking41a on November 29th 2010, 4:23 pm

It is looking real good a few more coats and it will be perfect.
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Post by bla1979 on November 29th 2010, 5:47 pm

Looks good so far, I give you respect for choosing such a challenging color!
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Post by DaveB on December 12th 2010, 4:11 pm

Sanded and put another coat on my truck Friday. It was 61 degrees. I finished around 3pm.. It stayed above 40 till the following morning when temps dive bombed, it rained, then later snowed. This morning, Sunday, there's a little snow on the top and hood and its about 17 degrees.

It was dry to the touch by dark, and in the morning, but I hope the cold doesn't hurt the long term cure or adhesion of the paint. Anyone have any input or experience in this regard?

On a side note, the areas of the truck that accepted the 5th coat look AWESOME. Went on smooooth with great shine, and with such little orange peel that I can see tiny body work issues I missed! So.. YES!!! and DANGIT!!! lol (some pics later)
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Post by LARRYBOMB on December 13th 2010, 12:16 am

I dig that roll pan.
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Re: 1995 Chevrolet Truck Gloss Black

Post by DaveB on October 17th 2011, 11:37 am

Hey, I still follow, though don't post as much as I find that relative to my experience good advice is being given so I just enjoy the work.
To close my thread, I finally got tired of working on this truck. It got hit once, hailed on twice, and I never became happy with black, so over the past couple weeks I've gotten 6 coats (most areas) of white on it and I'm happy with it for awhile. It still needs cut and buffed but I doubt I'll make it before winter as work is really picked up. Had pics and thought I'd share. Love the site.
(its still black under both doors. I'm old and hate getting on the ground. LOL and the pics are before I bombed the tight seems around the window



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Post by Noah Zarq on October 17th 2011, 12:32 pm

Looks just about perfect to me!
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Post by 63Falconconvert on October 17th 2011, 12:49 pm

thumbs up I like the white better.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on October 17th 2011, 1:02 pm

I like those in black, but the white looks really good. That truck sits just right, too.
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Post by cac1967 on October 17th 2011, 5:49 pm

Look's really good, black is a hard color to do in any kind of paint,the white's look's really good!!!! thumbs up
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