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Re: 68 Mustang Coupe

Post by cac1967 on August 25th 2011, 9:58 pm

Headliner look's great,keep up the great progress!! love the picture from the front with your fog and head light's man that look's mean!!!! LOVE THE PIC'S!!!!! thumbs up

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on August 25th 2011, 10:18 pm

What you have on there is a 1G series alternator. They are characterized by their external voltage regulator. (If your regulator is original, it is mechanical with a breaker switch, later ones were electronic IIRC) I like 1Gs because I never had one go bad (save for the time I realized that jumper cables and a hangover are a bad combination...) My '82 GT made it to 225,000 miles still charging, but the bearings went bad in that alt. I believe that 1Gs came with up to 100 amps, I had one in an '88 Econoline. A 1G setup is a very reliable charging system.

The '86-'93 Stangs used the 2G which was their first internally regulated alternator. Nobody seems to swap these into older Stangs. And they're not as reliable as 1Gs IMO. The highest ones I know of are like 80 amps, and barely adequate. The charging connection is fire prone (and I think my Econoline used this type of connector, in spite of being a 1G.)

3Gs showed up on Stangs in '94, and are much closer to a "one wire" setup. But they all have 3 connections in addition to the main charging wire which goes to the battery, but there is plenty of 3G conversion info available on the interwebs. If you study and come to understand the charging circuit, it's not a difficult job. I pretty much just searched for a writeup which simply showed me what connections to make, so I can't describe the whole circuit.
Mine came from a V6 car, and had a huge pulley. I put it in my old '92 GT, and didn't notice a difference from the 80 amp job. So when I went to put it in my '88, I put on the smallest pulley I had, ('94 Topaz) and was amazed at the difference.

One problem for your car is that I don't think anyone has come up with a way to make the AMP gauge work with the later alts.
And you really want your main charge wire fused in some way. The factory charge wiring is inadequate for 130 amps in my car, so I doubled it up, with the charge wires from the '92 (So I've doubled the capacity and it's protected by fusible links I believe).

What will your current demands be in the future? Huge amplifier? Electric radiator fan? Lighting mods? If you don't go over the top, with electrical accessories, you might be fine with the largest 1G that will fit. (The 100 amp might need a different tensioner bolt bracket.)

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Post by dean_af on August 26th 2011, 8:55 am

Love the LEDs.

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Post by stang_krazy on August 27th 2011, 12:39 am

rmd I've been reading this whole post and looking at everything you've done for the last hour or so and all I can say is AMAZING!!!!!!!!

One very niclely done piece of art, your time and work has paid off big time. bow bow bow

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Post by 63Falconconvert on August 30th 2011, 2:35 pm

are we driving yet????

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Post by rmdhokie on August 31st 2011, 9:43 pm

63Falconconvert wrote:are we driving yet????

No. scratch But I'm making progress. Slow but progress nonetheless. Got all front and rear window moldings on and drivers rear quarter window in. My goal by football season is basically out the window. smash

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Post by 63Falconconvert on September 1st 2011, 8:42 pm

Take your time. The last thing you want to do is scratch the paint.
How cold does it get down there in the winter? I bet you can cruise all year. Once the snow flies up here cruising is done for 5 months.....why do I live here...lol

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Post by rmdhokie on September 1st 2011, 9:37 pm

63Falconconvert wrote:The last thing you want to do is scratch the paint.
How cold does it get down there in the winter? I bet you can cruise all year. Once the snow flies up here cruising is done for 5 months.....why do I live here...lol

Funny you mention that...I was doing so well too. I dinged the paint in two spots putting the window moldings back on. Nothing major and already took a fine artist brush (don't tell my daughter) and fixed both spots. Both were right on the edge of the stainess and rubbed right thru the blue tape. Had to get a little heavy handed to get the repro moldings on...I was PO'd but got over it quick. Kinda deal where no one will ever notice but you know it's there.

Mild winters down here and you can drive all year. Moving next year (military retirement) back to Virginia where much like you, winter cruising is limited.

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Post by rmdhokie on September 1st 2011, 9:54 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:What will your current demands be in the future? Huge amplifier? Electric radiator fan? Lighting mods? If you don't go over the top, with electrical accessories, you might be fine with the largest 1G that will fit. (The 100 amp might need a different tensioner bolt bracket.)

I'll have an AMP but a small one...no plans on thumping bass and rattling my trunk lid...just to get the most sound out of 6x9s in rear and 5.5s in the front kick panels. I did do the relay mod for head lights but that's it. Everything worked prior, but I did notice slight headlight flickering before which might just be the external voltage regulator needs replaced...maybe upgrade to a solid state version.

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on September 1st 2011, 10:26 pm

rmdhokie wrote: Everything worked prior, but I did notice slight headlight flickering before which might just be the external voltage regulator needs replaced...maybe upgrade to a solid state version.
But still hold on to the original one, or sell it to someone who wants it for a restoration.
Did you notice any flickering of the gauge lights or stereo display?
Can't hurt to upgrade to the fully transistorized* one - as long as you get a genuine MotorCraft unit. You could prolly find one in a junkyard for cheap. Dunno what year they started using the newer ones. They do not have a reputation for failure AFIK. But stay away from the McParts store V.R.s. Same holds true for ignition boxes. A genuine DuraSpark box is always better than whatever replacement.

*I meant to call it "solid state" in my previous post, myself. But I couldn't think of that term. (I even almost edited it right after I sent it.)
But now that I think about it, I believe that the old voltage regulators were solid state as well. I don't think that they ever had vacuum tubes...

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Post by 63Falconconvert on September 12th 2011, 8:51 pm

How long did you let your paint cure before you cut/buffed?

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Post by rmdhokie on September 12th 2011, 10:44 pm

I my guess is 14-20 days...in +90 degree garage. TS can says completely dry in 24 hours, of course that's without penetrol. It polished up nice.

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Post by 63Falconconvert on September 14th 2011, 8:57 am

rmdhokie wrote:I my guess is 14-20 days...in +90 degree garage. TS can says completely dry in 24 hours, of course that's without penetrol. It polished up nice.

thanks. I'm going to let my test lid sit for a month before wet sanding/buffing.

Ok are you driving yet!

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Post by rmdhokie on September 15th 2011, 9:07 pm

63Falconconvert wrote:thanks. I'm going to let my test lid sit for a month before wet sanding/buffing.

Ok are you driving yet!

No, not yet. Getting close. All glass back in and adjusted...that took awhile. Fired up the pony a couple of days ago...first time running in about 13 months. No problems, running great; thought I'd at least have to rebuild carb. To do list: I have to paint interior side of doors (Rusto Pro rattlle can of semi-gloss black), install all new weatherstrip and felts for doors, install vinyl "C" stripes on the side of car, then turn to the interior....new carpet and seats, which should go pretty quick. I'm tempted to just bolt in the driver's seat and smoke some tires before I start the interior. pirat

I've shelved the idea of installing the T5 5-speed for now, even though I have the trans, pedals, and new clutch sitting in the garage.

No work this weekend....road trip to Virginia Tech football game!

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on September 15th 2011, 10:43 pm

rmdhokie wrote: All glass back in and adjusted...that took awhile.
Did you do the windshield and back window yourself? How?

I put a new vinyl top on my Cougar back in '02, but I left those windows in.

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Post by 86 stang on September 15th 2011, 10:46 pm

before you put in the t-5 there are a lot of new upgrades for it you can install to make it last till kingdom come if you want //http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp//////////////////////if you want a 5 speed this is the way to go it will save you money and hassle burnout

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Post by rmdhokie on September 16th 2011, 5:36 am

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:Did you do the windshield and back window yourself? How?

Yep, I had a friend help put those in...it's a two person job getting the gasket around the pinchweld. I used the rope in gasket trick to pull the gasket over the pinchweld while you have someone applying pressure from the outside. The special bedding and glazing compound used to seal gasket to body is evil nasty stuff. Classic Mustangs are prone leakage around windshields and back glass because they are often sealed incorrectly, especially around the clips that hold the stainless trim. I really sealed the **** out both windows. I used 2 full tubes of sealant for each window. Water hose check....checked good no leaks Very Happy

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Post by rmdhokie on September 16th 2011, 5:45 am

86 stang wrote:before you put in the t-5 there are a lot of new upgrades for it you can install to make it last till kingdom come if you want //http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp//////////////////////if you want a 5 speed this is the way to go it will save you money and hassle burnout

I have a T5 and bellhousing from an 86 GT in the garage right now. Actually bought it back in 2005. My plan was to finally install it while I had things apart for body and paint, but right now I need to get it back on the road and will push that project off til next year. Plus, I still have a few parts to acquire like Z-bar setup, flywheel, transmount mount, and usually requires to shorten drive shaft by one inch too.

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Post by 86 stang on September 16th 2011, 6:36 pm

its a good setup if you build up the t-5 but if you dont stuff like that z-bar/ or any thing that makes it stick better/ and you have to rebuild it every time you wash the car

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Post by rmdhokie on September 20th 2011, 8:38 pm

Painted interior doors with Rusto Pro.







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Post by 63Falconconvert on September 20th 2011, 8:47 pm

nice....how did it flow out compared to rolling?

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Post by cac1967 on September 20th 2011, 9:17 pm

look's great!!! thumbs up

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Post by 86 stang on September 20th 2011, 10:44 pm

nice rock

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Post by rmdhokie on September 22nd 2011, 6:40 am

63Falconconvert wrote:nice....how did it flow out compared to rolling?

I'm happy with the results....Rusto Pro is good paint. I finished glueing all weatherstripping last night. Next is the C-stripe decals....which is the last and final step to the repaint process that started over a year ago. "Paint-job complete" pics coming soon.

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on September 22nd 2011, 3:38 pm

rmdhokie wrote:which is the last and final step to the repaint process that started over a year ago. "Paint-job complete" pics coming soon.
Wow. A year really isn't that bad, considering how much you disassembled that car.

Looking forward to those pics. That car is worthy of a good camera and a good photographer.

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