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Post by rju12 on February 22nd 2011, 8:07 pm

So I have started this project quite a while ago but I need some advice. I have so far put on 6-7 coats the problem is I have been sanding it almost completely smooth each time and when I started what I thought would be my last sand I was still going through the paint enough to see the primer underneath in areas that needed more work. Now I have been diluting the rustoleum with mineral spirits at 50/50. I realized this wasn't going to be my last sanding so I busted out the 400 grit instead of the 800 because it was taking too long. (good or bad idea) I was thinking I should put on the next coats a little thicker like 2/3 rustoleum 1/3 mineral spirits and do maybe 3 coats? Would it be okay to do this and sand after the second lightly to get out the dust then do a really good sanding after the third, like smooth it with 800 then 1000 before i lay two final coats probably going back to the 50/50 mixture? I know this is gonna look amazing depending on how well i sand it because it looked better than my previous paint job before i started sanding again. Im trying to get this car looking mint especially because of a bunch of people who doubt my little project. Im just getting a little tired of sanding and starting to get inpatient(thats why i took a break am on here.)thats why I was wondering if there is a faster way to get coverage. I figured a 1week late with awesome results is better than 1week early and garbage paint. Anyway I would really appreciate anyones thoughts!
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I realized you can see the spots i didn't sand perfect under the next coat i put on but I was thinking, If i put on these thick coats would it not be as important to sand it perfect, just because I will do a thorough sand at the end, or is that wrong should i keep sanding it very well everytime I sand?
Also I will be posting pictures I have been taking some throughout just gotta go right now.
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Post by retired plumber on February 23rd 2011, 5:42 pm

You can put the paint on as thick as you want. Just be aware that the thicker it is, the more orange peel you will have which means more sanding.
Thats the price you pay for the "$50.00 paint job", sweat equity insted of $$$$$$$.
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Post by rju12 on February 27th 2011, 6:47 pm

Alright well i decided to be safe and I ended up putting on 3 more thin coats to make sure I would have good coverage before doing my last sand before my final coats. SO next I sanded down my hood completely with 800 grit then went over it like twice with 1000 grit and put on a layer to see what would happen. It looked awesome so I started to do this with the rest of the car, problem is in the last picture. I don't know what caused this. it is like rings. I also decided to add one final coat after the three to the rest of the car because i went through on the other parts and I was wondering if that final coat caused this?
the materialsI used a palm sander and 150 grit that i got for free. Needed a lot of it because it kept clogging up. I got rid of my antenna hole. I did this by getting some sheet metal just from lowes and sanding it and the inside of the body around the hole then using jb weld and holding it together for at least a day. I used the same method to fill the squares in the next picture. Later I just put bondo ( different brand) over and sanded until is was as smooth as I could get then once I put primer over I used the paint stir stick with like 400 and 600 grit to keep a flat surface with the car and do x paterns over it. I learned this from my gf's uncle. This way the high spots where you originally filled the hole go away. With out the primer if you tried to get it flat you would eventually go to low and hit metal. Creative fix! I did some bondo to fill all the emblem holes, and also got rid of my side moldings. I think this pic is out of order but I first did white primer sanded with 400 then did another coat and mixed it half with the black paint so I would have a darker primer to get coverage faster. I believe I added 1/3primer 1/3 paint 1/3 thinner also.One of the first coats. Looks shiney already doesn't look as good through this cameraGotta sand till all those spots are out if im correct? This is where I am now I didn't take pictures for a while. This is at like the 10th coat and it looks good as is but I plan on making it awesome! The hood is one coat ahead and sanded one time more but you can see the reflection, the rest of the car is close to as good but I just sanded the hood more thorough. If you look at a certain angle to the light you can see roller marks but im sure they will go away after i put another coat on and sand/buff NOW HERE IS THE PROBLEM! I don't know what this is from? I started sanding one of the side fenders and this happened. What should i do? any thoughts appreciated thank you!
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on February 27th 2011, 10:53 pm

rju12 wrote:
I've seen this before when wetsanding rattle-can paint, and I'm not sure what it is. I think you are seeing a few different coats/layers/strata there. I would want to hit that area with more paint also.

Props on the antenna shave job too.
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Post by 78StangII on February 27th 2011, 11:24 pm

What was the temp when you were applying the paint? I'm not sure about rolling on but when I sprayed mine the temperature seemed to be factor.
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Post by rju12 on February 28th 2011, 2:56 am

1 Thanks. Yeah I think I might have to hit the whole car with more paint but its weird because I just did like 4 coats... maybe thicker ones? I'm gonna do one thin coat tonight and see what it looks like. If its not to bad Ill probably do another for my final coat.... Wish me luck! haha
2 By the way I live in Washington and it has been cold lately. Actually was snowing a couple of days ago. So it is pretty cold but I keep it in the garage and keep a disk heater going and a 600watt grow light over it lol. It is a bit warmer than outside.


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Post by rju12 on February 28th 2011, 8:28 am

Ahhh good news when i was messing around with that spot before I painted it I tried sanding that fender with 1000 grit and it did the trick! you can still see it kinda on the left side but you can also see how it is fading. Was such a relief to know i could just continue sanding and will be able to lay down my final coats soon.

Tomorrow I'll for sure be putting two coats on my bumper and wing because they are behind the rest of the car... Then hopefully finish sanding the rest of my car with 800 then 1000. I just spent 4hours sanding down and now that I think about it I only did 5 panels....so like 6 1/2 out of 11 done Sad . I'm considering not going to do the areas that you won't face directly at all. Such as the top of the trunk which will be under the wing, or like the very bottom of the door area because it would be a B. I'm considering not doing the back bumper either just cuz this is taking sooo long. Think I would regret that?Also would lightly sanding the areas im thinking about skipping make it look worse after the final coat? Like would you be able to see the uneven sanding? Also I went through in one spot (like a dot of white) so I'm hoping that the three final coats will cover it. kinda scared.
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Post by rju12 on March 2nd 2011, 8:03 pm

I have some update pictures. All is going well except I got a few drips on my last 3 coats. Anyways i'm just on the final stages now of wetsanding with 1500 and 2000 before i use a rubbing then polishing compound.
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Post by rmdhokie on March 2nd 2011, 8:58 pm

How long do you plan to let the paint (last coat) cure before you polish and wax? I've read 30-60 days.
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Post by rju12 on March 3rd 2011, 4:45 pm

Yeah dang... I just read that too lol. I already wetsanded the whole thing with 1500 and I did the hood with half 2000. I did that so I could see if it would speed up the process of buffing. I just bought the turtle wax buffing compound and polishing compound and started testing on the hood with the buffing compound. I just came in to read a little on how to buff because i just realized I don't know what im doing lol. Im using a porter cable 7424xp also by the way. You think I would be able to do it sooner since I thinned the paint so much? Maybe it dried faster since it was in a heated garage too... Feel like I better wait now though.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 3rd 2011, 10:56 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:
rju12 wrote:
I've seen this before when wetsanding rattle-can paint, and I'm not sure what it is. I think you are seeing a few different coats/layers/strata there. I would want to hit that area with more paint also.

Props on the antenna shave job too.
Thinking about it some more, did you maybe start wetsanding that area before it had dried enough?

Looking good now though.
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Post by DarkAngel on March 5th 2011, 5:23 am

I have been thinking about doing my Integra as well. Want something to closely match my MR color which looks like Carnival Red would be a close match. That or either Sunrise Red. I'm surprised the wife is all for me doing this LOL.
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Post by rju12 on March 5th 2011, 6:56 am

Yeah mine is about to turn out awesome. I just need to find a polish to take out light swirls from turtle polishing compound. How long do you plan on spending on this project?
I just know it took a long time to get it looking really good. Like I spent at least 4 hours each sanding once it was in the 800-1000 grit. I would just recommend doing one area you can practice on. Is your car a daily driver?
It can turn out awesome but I bet a lot of people might underestimate the time involvement. I'm pumped now though. Gotta get up some more pictures soon.

"Thinking about it some more, did you maybe start wetsanding that area before it had dried enough?" Well I gave it like 10-12 hours to dry just as all the other coats. I'm not sure what happened but I think I just went through my thin coats. I'll have to take some pictures of that spot in the light when im done because I think it has disappeared.

This whole project should be done tomorrow i hope.
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Post by DarkAngel on March 5th 2011, 12:57 pm

rju12 wrote:Yeah mine is about to turn out awesome. I just need to find a polish to take out light swirls from turtle polishing compound. How long do you plan on spending on this project?
I just know it took a long time to get it looking really good. Like I spent at least 4 hours each sanding once it was in the 800-1000 grit. I would just recommend doing one area you can practice on. Is your car a daily driver?
It can turn out awesome but I bet a lot of people might underestimate the time involvement. I'm pumped now though. Gotta get up some more pictures soon.

My teg is currently a DD but I have another car which I am putting together as my permanent DD so time will be up to me after that DD is up and running. I have a lot of parts that need to go onto the Integra just waiting for the time to park it an start disassembly. During that time I will also take the engine out and do the engine bay. Heck I may even do a totally different color all together like Sunburst Yellow. The car needs an overhaul on suspension, steering rack, etc. Currently at 238K on the ODO on my 95 GSR. Nothing wrong with the Original Engine and passed Emissions with flying colors. I am looking forward to rebuilding this Integra to like new status so doing the work myself is what I want to do. I plan on spraying the paint on instead of rolling though.


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Post by rju12 on March 6th 2011, 5:18 am

Oh i see. Yeah my car is a never ending work in progress. I think spraying it is the way to go if you have the equipment. You would probably just save a lot of time with the sanding. You plan on building a paint booth? I never thought about it but is something I would consider next time, but It doesn't really matter too much if you do a final sanding i would imagine. Sounds like you are a diy'er too though if your gonna take out the engine to do the bay. There are a lot of cool colors in rustoleum, brightside or whatever paint your gonna use. If you have the time and have confidence I would recommend going for it. Just take your time. It is hard to not get excited. The one thing that I had a problem with was my bumper rushing it and now I have a couple minor fisheyes. I'll get pics soon when it gets put back on. Let me know if your gonna do your whip. I would like to try and give pointers. I'll have to try and think of things through every step. You just learn so much as you do this all yourself. I'm very happy though so I know anyone can do it, just being a daily driver sucks.
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Post by rju12 on March 10th 2011, 4:16 pm

So here are the final pics a few of the end are of spots I screwed up. I fixed two of them and I made one of them worse and just added paint over it....This one I went through in a few spots in the center but in fixed nice. Just added a few layers of paint then sanded and buffed.Here I also went through.You can see the bottom where i didn't sand enough and there was a spot on the right where it is just not a smooth texture. This last one is where it got real messed up. I went through one little part on the edge and I only put two layers on 1 across the part and 1 right where i messed it up. I should have done more because after I sanded it it looked fine but once i started buffing it i went through like 3 parts on the edge.
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Post by DarkAngel on March 10th 2011, 4:18 pm

Looks great. Cant wait to start mine.
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Post by austin26372 on March 10th 2011, 10:10 pm

Overall pretty nice! I wanted to go with black, but not on my first job. Maybe next time. Very Happy
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