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1969 f250 4x4 brightside Firered - Sprayed

Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 1:39 am

I restored this truck frame off, but no way i'll ever afford a $4,000+ paint job, and it's a 4x4 that i do take on trails so i don't want to worry about my paint too much.





Made a flatbed
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I rolled on brightside firered and off-white in a two-tone scheme as i was planning on running the trim, but changed plans.
I didn't block the body down last time, so the truck was really wavy.

A week ago i started block sanding the body down, and did some filler work. Body is MUCH more straight than it was. Ah, and i welded all the trim holes in.


This is where i am right now. After a week of body work getting it straight, I rolled on rustoleum primer on the hood to fill in some deep scratches and also some on the fenders/door so i could block it down to make the body as straight as i could. This plan backfired... the primer turned out to be EXTREMELY orange peely, spent an entire day trying to sand out the orange peel off my nice smooth body I spent all week on. I got most of the orange peel off, but the hood still has a lot.
Cleaned it up, taped it off and I'm spraying it tomorrow. I have a compressor, not that big, it's a 16 gallon or something. I bought the purple hvlp gun from harbor freight a year ago, never used it. Took that out of hiding today. Going to coil up the air line and set it in an ice chest of ice water to cool down the air (hopefully works to remove moisture from line) and hopefully tomomrrow i can grab a disposable water separator from the paint store before i shoot.



So tomorrow the paint will be done on this truck, just have to wait a week or two then i can colorsand and buff the paint out! Hoping that if i spray 4 coats on, I'll have plenty of paint to work with to get rid of almost all orange peel.... we will see. I have lots of scratches from coarse sand paper i am curious if the paint and colorsanding will get rid of them. Hmm

After I finish painting this truck up next is my race truck. Right now it's rocking rattle can...

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Re: 1969 f250 4x4 brightside Firered - Sprayed

Post by snafu on June 13th 2011, 9:53 am

Nice work on the frame and engine!

I do hope you have a good mask and respirator for painting. You absolutely do not want to be inhaling the urethane paint.
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Re: 1969 f250 4x4 brightside Firered - Sprayed

Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 10:42 am

Thanks

I do have a pretty dang gun respirator, no "mask" though. Should I wear dirtbike goggles or something to keep it out of my eyes or is it not an issue?

About to spray it in a little bit...
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Post by 63Falconconvert on June 13th 2011, 2:12 pm

Welcome....great job on the frame and drive train!

Get yourself a good mask, gloves, eye protection and even a tyvec paper suit. Paint fumes are nothing to mess with. Even if your rolling I would still wear a mask and gloves.
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Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 4:34 pm

Thanks!

Just finished cleaning the gun!

I wore my respirator, and a painting suite my dad scored from work. It's a legit professional paint spray suit, vented and all.


Turned out pretty good. **** good for a 4x4 that will see trails anyways Very Happy

Quite a bit of orange peel. Can't wait to colorsand and buff it out, or atleast some/most of it. I think i'll wait one week before sanding any paint though.

I just can't wait to un tape it in an hour and roll it outside into the sun.

It's 5 coats, I think...
Used 1.75 quarts.



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Post by rmdhokie on June 13th 2011, 5:05 pm

Nice project....love those old fords.

You do have some peel but five coats sprayed gives you plenty of paint thickness to wetsand.

What the next color for the Racing Truck?
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Re: 1969 f250 4x4 brightside Firered - Sprayed

Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 6:25 pm

yep thats what i was thinking, i sprayed more coats than i've seen done so i could have lots to wetsand with!




As for the race truck, I think i am going to keep it the same exact color scheme and stripe, just a nicer finish this time, doing the same thing i just did to my 4x4 today.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 13th 2011, 6:36 pm

I've never sprayed, (besides with a can) but 1.75 quarts sounds low to me. I've got 2.33333 rolled on mine - actually a good bit of that is now dust on my driveway...


That is some Orange Peel, but it can be gotten rid of... That color is good for that truck too.
If I were faced with that OP, I'd start at a low grit. I started color-sanding with 220 wet, (wish I'd used a block at that stage, because I've got some waves) and worked my way up. I didn't think I did the best job, but I have only found a couple areas showing sanding scratches, which encourages me. Mine is white though, too.

First truck I ever drove was a '72 or so, with a 390. I believe it was a 3/4 or one-ton too.
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Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 6:46 pm

Yeah I am going to start a little low when i color sand, try to get most of it off of there... i also have two areas both on the drivers fender where there is a 6" section that started sagging (running) so i have to block those runs out, ugh.


Nice... this truck has a 390 as well.. in fact i just put the 390 fender badge back on. It tows the race truck
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Post by 1971ford on June 13th 2011, 6:50 pm

Oh and as for how much i used, 1.75 quarts, I think it just seems a little on hte low side but think about it... there was no bed to paint, didn't paint the roof, didn't paint the upper door pillars, didn't paint the cowl near the windshield, already had painted all the body panel edges beforehand, didn't have to paint the upper valance.
All i shot was the fenders, door skins, hood, lower valance, outer sides of cowl, and the cab corners.
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Post by retired plumber on June 14th 2011, 12:05 am

Looks to me like you were running out of air when you were spraying, especially when you said the compressor was not very big. Compressors are rated by output , not the size of the tank and that purple gun is an air hog. I have a blue one like that and it takes 7.5 cfm to work right (which is the limit of my compressor). I can tell when it runs low on air because my nice smooth coat starts to look like that (op). I stop for a minute and let the compressor build back up and do some more. Just a thought from an old man Laughing .
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Post by 1971ford on June 14th 2011, 2:35 pm

that may of also contributed to the orange peel, but the compressor never dropped below 120 PSI, and I regulated the output to 60 psi, and at the gun I regulated to 30 psi. Shouldn't it not matter about how big the compressor is as long as I had way more PSI in the tank than i needed?
I did wait for the compressor several times, I never let it pump for more than a couple minutes.

It did seem like the gun wasn't atomizing very well half the time, could be because the compressor, just seems weird because all the gun cares about is how much PSI there is at the regulator and it always had way more than i neeeded.
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Post by cuchullainn on June 14th 2011, 9:35 pm

psi and cfm are different. With HVLP, you want cfm which small compressors really don't put out alot of. Did you thin using mineral spirits? After my experience shooting my fleetwood, I'm convinced ms isn't a good choice for spraying. I reduced the same paint (rustoleum) with both ms and AE medium reducer and the paint came out great with the reducer, but very peeled with ms.
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Post by 1971ford on June 14th 2011, 10:33 pm

I used whatever the interlux 216 thinner is, not sure..
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Post by 1971ford on June 14th 2011, 11:56 pm

Some outside shots. Spent all day making a 2-3" lift, just need to make another new set of shackles and it will be done for now.






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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 15th 2011, 1:01 am

Since I'm telling everyone what to do to their rides tonight, Rolling Eyes a dually rear axle would totally kick *** on that truck, and maybe some true dual exhaust stacks with raincaps, an X pipe hidden underneath... It would sound killer too.

If I was using that for a fifth-wheel trailer, I'd remove the flatbed and maybe even add dual semi-style tanks.
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Post by austin26372 on June 15th 2011, 8:52 pm

Awesome truck - just bring down that paint and she's show ready!!!!
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Re: 1969 f250 4x4 brightside Firered - Sprayed

Post by retired plumber on June 16th 2011, 12:28 am

Whats done is done as far as the spraying goes. It still looks good and there is enough paint on it you can color sand and buff and it will look like a polished ruby. With that being said and the statement you take it off road on trails and don't really want to worry about I'd call it a job well done unless you want to experiment a bit with gun adjustments, etc before the next one thumbs up
After seeing a picture of your compressor I can tell you it probably will not supply enough cfm to run that gun properly. You need to know what the compressor puts out, cfm at what psi and what the gun requires to know for sure tho. Without enough cfm at the required pressure the gun will still spray but not atomize properly. That is what caused your orange peel. I know my gun requires 7.5 cfm at 50 psi at the regulator on the gun and the gun drops it to what it needs internally from there. I get really smooth coverage when I have enough cfm but when mine drops below the gun requirements I get exactly what you got. Your mileage may vary tho and I am not trying to start anything. This is just my experience from many years of spraying.
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Post by 1971ford on August 14th 2011, 8:27 pm




Came out pretty good!
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Post by retired plumber on August 14th 2011, 10:16 pm

It sure did. Do you jump like that with the red one lol! Just kidding. Both look nice.
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