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Post by ericmanuel on June 15th 2011, 5:31 pm

Hey Guys,
My daughter just brought home a 1990 Honda CRX that runs great. So as all daughters do, she expects her dad to make it pretty. This will be my second roll job the first was a 1975 Jeep DJ5 (postal jeep) for my son. She had originally planned on having it painted by someone more professional. The money we save by doing the paint ourselves she will put into an extensive tune up. I will need help along the way. Probably will have loads of questions. Thanks in advance for your support. I will post pics along the way.
Here are some pics of the CRX (what we are starting with and the wheels before and after)
in the beginning

The wheels before and after


Here is a completed pic of the Jeep (first roll on paint job)


Thanks in advance for all your help.

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 15th 2011, 11:38 pm

Welcome. I see about as many CRXs as I do postal jeeps around here anymore.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 16th 2011, 2:19 pm

Made a lot of progress today. Took off hood, fenders, bumpers, blinkers, tail lights, mirrors and rocker panels. I would like someone from Honda to explain why they chose to attach the rocker panels with plastic screws that strip as soon as the screwdriver gets close to them. Vise grips became my tool of choice.

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I chose to take everything off for several reasons:
1. make sure the fenders rust free on the back side. (I am using POR 15 then undercoating them)
2. I have to paint both sides of the hood, so off the car made sense.
3. Most important less stuff to get paint on.

I also sanded and put first coat of primer(spray) on front bumper and rocker panels.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 16th 2011, 2:55 pm

I am using POR-15, this is my first time using it I have heard great things about it. Fortunately the CRX has very little rust for living 21 years in New England.

Please post tips and trick for POR-15.

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 16th 2011, 5:03 pm

ericmanuel wrote:I would like someone from Honda to explain why they chose to attach the rocker panels with plastic screws that strip as soon as the screwdriver gets close to them.
If they thread into metal, then my guess is to ward off corrosion caused by dissimilarities between the metals composing the car body, and a typical screw?
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Post by ericmanuel on June 16th 2011, 5:20 pm

Thanks Tommy. They were such a pain to remove. Plastic screws, rubber washers and plastic anchors. Can't wait to put these back together.
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Post by cuchullainn on June 17th 2011, 12:49 am

ericmanuel wrote:I am using POR-15, this is my first time using it I have heard great things about it. Fortunately the CRX has very little rust for living 21 years in New England.

Please post tips and trick for POR-15.

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Once you open the can, use it all within a week (I hope you didn't buy a gallon, that's enough to do 4 long bed truck frames and probably enough to bullet proof that crx) Seal it really well in between uses, just putting the lid back on is not enough (I used 4 freezer bags and a tupperware container, the half quart I had left was totally hard within a month). It's more like epoxy you can slow down the drying but not stop it. Brush it on Lightly, as it will run like crazy. Don't get it on anything you don't want it on, because it won't come off. If you get it on your skin you'll wear it for a while. Make sure you use their metal prep or whatever it's called too or you'll have adhesion problems. Don't bother with their marine clean though, just use whatever degreaser you prefer.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 17th 2011, 11:19 am

Thanks for the POR- 15 heads-up and yes we are trying to create the world's first bulletproof CRX. Made great progress last night. Have now sanded the entire front of the car. Hood, fenders and bumper. 2 coats of primer on hood, bumper and rocker panels. Would have primed the fenders but ran out of primer. I chose to use Rusto spray primer so I could get more base coats on quicker. I am doing the bodywork after this initial primer. Then will roll on 2 coats of primer then start with color.

The hood with 2 coats of primer.
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We will post more pics tomorrow.

Plan to have entire car sanded and areas that need POR-15 finished tomorrow so we can prime. We are painting the door jams (spray). My thought was to do those first let dry shut the doors and get to rolling.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 11:55 am

OK Guys,
Here is our update. This weekend we were real busy. Got all body work finished(good enough) not the best but let's be honest I am figuring this out as I go along. Two coats of primer (spray), initial coat of color we used can of Rusto Black Gloss. I chose to so that because when we did the Jeep the couple of coats rolling you have to fight the urge to get coverage. I can honesty say it made the first coat feel like the 6th coat. I wet sanded before the first coat was rolled on. I used less paint had no runs, really enjoyable to do. I left the hood just primed and am just rolling to see how many coats it takes to get complete coverage.
My paint mixture is 1:1 4oz paint and 4 oz mineral spirits with a capful of Japan Drier. Will continue to mix small batches incase I need to tweak them.
Pics coming soon.

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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 7:32 pm

Hood with 2 coats


Hood with 3 coats

Using a 1:1 mixture with Japan Drier. Applying really thin on purpose.
Amazing how great this is laying down.

Rest of the car with 4 coats rolled on over base coat of spray color


Up close of car after coat 4


Here are the supplies




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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 20th 2011, 8:02 pm

What is the Japan drier? Never heard of that till this thread.
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Post by cac1967 on June 20th 2011, 8:06 pm

It's pretty much hardner for oil based enamels.I have seen it at home depot and local hardware stores,haven't tried it but hear it works very well.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 20th 2011, 8:27 pm

Hmmm.

And thanks for the quick response. Very Happy
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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 8:58 pm

I am really digging the paint mixture on this car. The Jeep was a bear to paint run central. Lots of sanding. I am putting these coats on quick and thin with amazing results. Japan Drier has me looking for another car to paint. I would highly recommend it. We put on 5 coats of paint today. It dried to the touch in about 30 minutes we waited 2 plus hours between coats.It is remarkably smooth.

In my opinion our results are based on two things. really, really thin coats and the Japan Drier. Just for reference, it takes a little less than 4oz of paint mixture to cover the car. I know it's small but I'm just sayin'. FYI–The weather today was a dry 75 degree day.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 9:02 pm

Also a quick note about Japan Drier, get the smallest container available because you only use a little bit. I am using a capful to every 8 oz mixture(4oz paint, 4oz mineral spirits).
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Post by rmdhokie on June 20th 2011, 9:21 pm

ericmanuel wrote:...We put on 5 coats of paint today. It dried to the touch in about 30 minutes we waited 2 plus hours between coats.It is remarkably smooth.

Wow, that's amazing. I don't want to say how long it took me to get 5 coats on. Did you sand between any of the coats? Any problems with bugs or dust on the wet paint. Looking pretty good from the pics.
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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 9:25 pm

Rmdhokie, no sanding since we wet sanded the spray on color coat. Plan on sanding tomorrow night.
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Post by 63Falconconvert on June 20th 2011, 10:23 pm

Welcome...great work so far.
Question, when you say "spray on color coat" did you use a spray can or paint gun?
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Post by ericmanuel on June 20th 2011, 11:09 pm

63Falconvert,
I painted the door jams and edges with Rusto Black Gloss spray(from can) got carried away and decided to do the whole car(since it is small). In hind sight I would do it again. because it allowed me to just focus on thin coats and not try to get coverage with the early coats. I left the hood just primed so I would have a control group of with and with out a spray on base color coat.


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Post by cac1967 on June 20th 2011, 11:25 pm

I painted the door jambs on my ranger last week with rusto gloss black,my mix was 8 oz paint 4 oz acetone 4 oz ms, sprayed with my touch up gun , the results were astonishing!! my friends swear it's urethane enamel!!
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 21st 2011, 12:02 am

ericmanuel wrote:63Falconvert,
I left the hood just primed so I would have a control group of with and with out a spray on base color coat.
And that, folks, is science! Laughing
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