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Post by 88blazer on August 8th 2011, 6:40 pm

I'm trying to roll my '88 Blazer. First off it is over 100 degrees on a daily basis here in N. Texas. I sarted w/a 77:33 ratio of rust. to MS. Then I tried 60:40. Then about 50:50. The problem is I'm getting roller marks & runs. Also, the paint is drying in about 10 minutes so it's really not self leveling because it's drying so fast. Does this process not work in extreme heat like we are having? I'm using the correct paint, MS's, rollers & I'm doing it in the shade. I NEED HELP!
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Post by 88blazer on August 8th 2011, 6:51 pm

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Post by rmdhokie on August 8th 2011, 8:38 pm

88blazer wrote:I'm trying to roll my '88 Blazer. First off it is over 100 degrees on a daily basis here in N. Texas. I sarted w/a 77:33 ratio of rust. to MS. Then I tried 60:40. Then about 50:50. The problem is I'm getting roller marks & runs. Also, the paint is drying in about 10 minutes so it's really not self leveling because it's drying so fast. Does this process not work in extreme heat like we are having? I'm using the correct paint, MS's, rollers & I'm doing it in the shade. I NEED HELP!

I think the roller method works best in cooler weather for the reason you mentioned...time for paint to self-level. That is not to say folks haven't had success rolling in the heat. The paint will cure faster and recoat times are shortened. The downside is more wetsanding to get roller marks out.
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Post by 88blazer on August 8th 2011, 8:44 pm

BTW that is 4 coats using a dry roller after the wet roller to try to eliminated roller marks, bubbles & running marks. I'm using odorless MS from Home Depot because I couldn't find any 100% MS. Thanks.
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Post by retired plumber on August 9th 2011, 8:47 pm

100+ degrees is too hot in my opinion. You might try doing it at the break of dawn and see what happens. I agree with rmdhokie.
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Post by rick howe on August 10th 2011, 10:46 am

I only rolled my paint job in the early A.M. hot weather is never good and try using a reducer for your paint ; in such hot weather a slow reducer really helps the paint flatten out .
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Post by 88blazer on August 10th 2011, 2:12 pm

rick howe wrote:I only rolled my paint job in the early A.M. hot weather is never good and try using a reducer for your paint ; in such hot weather a slow reducer really helps the paint flatten out .

MS is a reducer, correct? Would it help if I did something like 50% Rust., 25% MS & 25% Penetrol? Or some ratio consisting of Penetrol in addition to the MS? Thanks.
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Post by 88blazer on August 11th 2011, 1:31 pm

Well, I tried 50:25:25 ( 4oz Rust.:2 oz MS:2oz Penetrol) and it stayed 'wet' longer but STILL has roller marks. So then I tried 8 oz Rust, 6 oz MS, 4 oz Penetrol. It is better but still has roller marks. I think even though the ratio has more reducer than paint that it is still too thick. I guess I will mix in more MS. It had nothing to do with the heat this time I don't think. It was about 84 degrees & my Blazer was in the garage. I NEED HELP!!!
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Post by rmdhokie on August 11th 2011, 5:27 pm

Are you applyng too much pressure when rolling? Is your roller loaded with too much paint? Explain how you apply the paint. It might be of combo of heat and your rolling method. You mentioned 4 coats in the pics above. That's a lot of coverage for 4 coats. I didn't see full coverage until coat 7. Maybe you're applying paint too thick for each coat. Applying thin coats is what it's all about. We're here to help. Tell us more.
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Post by 88blazer on August 11th 2011, 7:26 pm

I'm loading the roller, pressing with force on the pan to 'dry' the roller about 8 rolls, flipping it over, rolling with pressure again about 8 times. When I roll it I was rolling in straight, horizontal lines. Now I'm rolling in no particular direction or plane. I'm not using much force @ all while I'm rolling it on the truck. If I stir the paint & lift the stick out of the pail, the paint runs off the stir stick in a 'stream' for about 3-4 seconds before it turns to dripping off the stick. I'm using Rust. STOPS RUST satin hunter green & flat brown mixed 1/2 green & 1/2 brown. Thanks.
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Post by rmdhokie on August 11th 2011, 9:18 pm

Blazer: sounds like your doing everything right. It must be the heat.
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Post by snafu on August 12th 2011, 10:21 am

Yeah, it sounds like the paint is starting to dry before it can level.

I start with a fairly dry roller as you are doing, but I do use a good amount of pressure initially to get the paint onto the panel and spread around. Once you have the panel covered, the roller should be pretty dry and you can go back and roll it again with just the weight of the roller to flatten the bubbles and any roller lines. If your paint is drying too quickly, you may not have time to do both passes.
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Post by 63Falconconvert on August 12th 2011, 12:53 pm

rmdhokie wrote:Blazer: sounds like your doing everything right. It must be the heat.

I had the sam problem when I rolled on primer a few weeks ago. The temp in my garage was high 80's. I didn't worry to much about it being it was primer and most of it would be sanded off.
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Post by 88blazer on August 12th 2011, 3:43 pm

The downside is I'm not wanting to sand and buff at the end because I'm wanting it to be as flat as possible. So I'm not going to be able to sand out the roller marks in the end.
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Post by 88blazer on August 17th 2011, 11:59 am

I just mixed up 4oz Rust./4oz MS/2oz Penetrol. So far this has been the best mix. Not perfect but definitely better. It's about 89 degrees.
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