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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by cac1967 on January 10th 2012, 8:34 pm

If this is on the top, I would sand the top, or strip all the paint from the top, sand with 220 then 320 put at least 3 coat's of primer on the top then sand and repaint,this look's to be an adhesion issue or maybe to much ms in the paint, and I would go to maybe tractor supply and get some valspar hardner or try home depot and get the japan drier,this will definatly help with this issue, hope this help's thumbs up
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Post by interceptor on January 11th 2012, 2:22 am

Thanks for the input. Anything helps right now.

This is just the area on the roof on the driver's side, the blistering also formed on other parts of the roof, driver's door and rear quarter. When I did the roof I used the whole mixture all the way down the c pillar on both sides of the car. There seems to be no issues with the paint on the c pillar on both sides.

I just remembered when I first parked my car under the car port on a really cold night 32-37 F ( 0-3 C), the driver's side window would have moisture built up on it from the inside but the passenger side would have none.

I'm going to sand and see how far it goes. I spent one month almost every night in the garage. It's hard sanding my hard work away Sad
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Post by 63Falconconvert on January 11th 2012, 1:58 pm

I'm going to bet some condensation formed and the cold temps blistered the paint. I agree with cac1967 220 it with a d/a sander and start fresh.
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on January 12th 2012, 12:44 am

Strip the affected area down to good surface, prep the area out, put on more paint, (maybe do the whole roof with the final coats) and it should blend in fine.
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Post by interceptor on January 21st 2012, 12:19 am

Sorry there hasn't been an update but I haven't done anything to the car yet since we got snowed in the past week!! It's been below freezing at 23 F (-5 C) wow I'm holding off on work for now until the temperature rises and the humidity drops (currently 100%).

I am envious of you guys with the good weather.
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Post by interceptor on March 13th 2012, 6:41 pm

Well it's almost been 2 months and it still is cold. The temperature currently is around 41F (5C) but dropping to 35F (2C) tonight. I haven't done much to it, only fired up the car here and there but decided today I'd have a peek at the paint and the blistered spots where I previously sanded.

Some of the blisters have actually got smaller to the point where it's like a dot left from a pen. The spots where I sanded look like craters



Spring begins next week here so hopefully temperatures go up. I gotta finish this project before summer!
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on March 15th 2012, 4:03 am

Dunno if I'd maybe putty those? Or sand 'em out? I'd prolly try the putty, myself.

Got any pics of the whole roof, or most of it, which shows the craters?
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Post by interceptor on March 16th 2012, 12:03 am

The craters are actually kinda spread out, some areas are fine and some are not. I'm thinking I'm going to sand those bad areas down and blend them into the good ones.

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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by cac1967 on March 16th 2012, 12:06 am

Sand the roof with 320 on a block and repaint the roof, it will look fine.
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by interceptor on May 30th 2012, 2:58 am

Hey everyone it's been a while but the weather for painting is finally here. I do have to say it was hard getting off the sofa but gotta get it done now! So I decided I'd start with sanding the red fenders down first. I used a big old orbital and also hand sanded some parts. I used 100 to cut through the clear and then 220 to rough up the paint. Some areas I went to metal since there was some surface rust.




I have a question for you experienced painters out there. Do I have to remove all the clear coat before I paint or can I just rough it up?
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by Tommy Hillbilly on May 30th 2012, 10:35 pm

If it isn't checked, peeling, or cracked, I wouldn't do any more than scuff it with some 400.

I hear you about getting up off the couch. Today I actually went out there and installed my Explorer intake manifold.
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Post by interceptor on June 14th 2012, 3:03 am

So it's been a few weeks, prepping was a pain as rust spots popped up from sanding. Sanded the roof with 320. I layed a coat yesterday. I tried a new technique with a brush. With no thinning straight from the can, I loaded up the brush, dabbed the areas I was painting and then brushed across the dabbed areas once. I did this on parts of the back fender and rolled the front.

Results from the brushing actually were surprising even though I did a very small area. This method does seem to use more paint but the finish almost appears better than a rolled one. It's late right now and got work tomorrow, I'll post some pics tomorow.
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by Tommy Hillbilly on June 14th 2012, 10:35 am

The paint I used seemed to take forever to dry, when applied straight out of the can.
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Post by interceptor on June 19th 2012, 2:02 am

Well tomorrow turned into 4 days later lol

Anyways you're right, I noticed the same thing as well. I touched the areas I painted with no thinning and I had to leave it an extra day to dry. I had some small runs too as it was thick but it's on the back so who cares. I did these areas as there was some rust, so I just removed as much of it as I could and threw some of this paint on. I'm hoping this rust paint will stop or slow down any future rust from returning.

I have no idea why there are 2 extra holes, looks like somebody was fiddling with these panels before, good thing they're covered by a plastic piece.



2nd coat, with no space in the garage the hood will have to serve as a table for now

Scratches left from 220/320 are visible



2nd coat on the roof, lots of dust but will get sanded out




Put another coat on the fender and roof today, so 3 so far. Summer is just around the corner and I still have the other fender and the cowl cover to do!!! The plan for tomorrow is to remove the other fender and start prepping it. I picked up a Preval Spray Gun and I think I'm going to spray the other fender. I was originally going to do the front and rear bumper but I might hold off on that. We'll see how it goes Smile

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Post by interceptor on June 29th 2012, 12:43 am

Managed to now get a total of 5 coats on the fender, looks amazing even with a few dust particles on it.



The other fender has been prepped and I just laid one coat down on it yesterday. Going to do one more coat on the roof but will have to sand it with some 1000. I'm thinking about calling it a shift for the fender with 5 coats but I may just do one more on it as well too.
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Post by interceptor on July 4th 2012, 12:28 am

For my final coat on the roof and fender I decided I wouldn't thin the paint mixture too much however the down side was that it seemed to be setting up faster. For example when I rolled the roof, I did half and then would go to the other side to do the other half but when I rolled into an area that I already did the roller marks wouldn't flow out. We'll have to see tomorrow how well it turned out. Bought some Meguiar's Ultimate Compound the other day so maybe I can buff those roller marks out.

Currently:
Driver's fender: 6 coats
Roof: 6 coats on top of a previous 8 coats that was sanded b/c of blisters
Passenger fender: 3 coats

This is when it was at the 2nd coat, good gloss but pics don't show the coverage, which isn't so great.

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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by Raun31 on July 8th 2012, 8:36 pm

hey did you use preveal sprayer on the fender or did you roll im gradually gaining confidence in paint my car myself
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by 63Falconconvert on July 8th 2012, 8:40 pm

WOW...looking hot! You're almost there!
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Post by interceptor on July 9th 2012, 3:26 am

Raun31 wrote:hey did you use preveal sprayer on the fender or did you roll im gradually gaining confidence in paint my car myself

I rolled the fenders but I used the preval sprayer on a plastic piece that attaches to the fender just for fun.

Should've thinned it more, I was holding the sprayer maybe 4in from the surface and going pretty fast. Results were orange peel. Some areas that I managed to get more paint on didn't orange peel that much.


Did the other piece much slower with the same mix, sprayed it on too thick in some areas though. Shouldn't have hung it to dry as I got a run on it. The finish was awesome though as you can see. I had to sand it though to get rid of the run.


Rolled my last coat yesterday on the roof and fenders. Found 2 dead flies on it so sanded just the surrounding areas. Going to wait a week for the paint to harden before buffing. Mean time I'll have to the put the fenders back on for a full picture Very Happy
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by interceptor on July 16th 2012, 4:12 am

Sneak peak of the car, the cowl cover area is actually all done now.

Hopefully I can get a full picture tomorrow.


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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by chopperchuck on July 16th 2012, 7:39 pm

sounds like you now have your HAPPY face on cheers
looks good!
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by Tommy Hillbilly on July 16th 2012, 11:46 pm

Looks good!
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Post by interceptor on July 18th 2012, 1:49 pm

Thanks guys, I do got my Very Happy on!

The photoshoot is on hold atm as I decided to touch up the bottom of the trunk with some left over paint I mixed. Might as well use it and not let it go to waste. Sprayed 2 coats so far with the preval sprayer on areas that I removed rust. The previous "rust stop"coating I sprayed wasn't holding up.

Pics will come, one more coat!
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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by interceptor on July 27th 2012, 8:34 pm

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Only the bumpers left, might hold off on it we'll see, been really busy lately.

Ignore the lighting on this picture, makes the front fender look off. Pics are large and got cut off a bit.





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Re: 88 Mustang Coupe

Post by cac1967 on July 27th 2012, 9:52 pm

lookin good interceptor!!!!!! thumbs up
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