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Post by Dougie Murder on November 9th 2011, 2:17 am

Throughout this year, I have had to tighten my belt financially after having to help out a family member who is going through a rough patch, fixing up my old house and planning/financing my wedding among other things.

I was paying over $400 a month in gas alone driving a 99 Dodge Caravan. wow wow
Decided to downsize and get something that was better on gas, so I found a 96 jetta that looked pretty decent.

...Ran great, Drove good around the parking lot and at first glance looked like it only needed window regulators and minor bodywork/paint. It has all options and everythign but the pwr windows worked!!
Pwr mirrors, A/C, Heat, Heated Seats...


I've been researching different methods on the forum with the intent to paint my Fiero on the cheap....so
I decided to use the opportunity to try my hand at painting using the Valspar Tractor Enamel spray method described here...
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/body/546612-ultimate-budget-paint-job.html

Here is all the fun i had along the way, and lessons i've learned.... drive



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Post by Dougie Murder on November 9th 2011, 2:24 am

Here is what it looked like in the start...
Bad clear coat




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Post by Dougie Murder on November 9th 2011, 9:06 pm

Rust was everywhere..





The fenders were crap...i would have to find replacements
The Trunk had rust blisters that tuned into holes when you touched them...and the spoiler was rusted on
PS Rear quarter was rusted through and the gas door was hanging by a thread
PS Rear door revealed even more hidden rust when I opened it (I could pretty much put my finger through any rust spot on the car)
DS Rear door was rusted at the bottom
DS rear wheel well lip was rusted through too....

By this point my wife was giving me much grief about buying a piece of crap and wasting money... dork
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 10th 2011, 1:32 am

So, I started ripping into it...



After removing the bumper, I was happy to find more rust...rusted out rad support. Found a dude locally who was parting out a few golfs and got a rad support in great condition for 20 bucks!


All kinds of crap fell out of the fender...dirt....bee hive. Got 2 rust free fenders from the same dude for 100 beans.


Had trouble getting the fender off without damaging the doors...here's one way to do it..



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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 10th 2011, 10:03 pm

Welcome.

Haha, I saw that rust, and thought, "he must be in Canada." I scrolled up, and it turned out I was right.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 12th 2011, 2:26 am

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:Welcome.

Haha, I saw that rust, and thought, "he must be in Canada." I scrolled up, and it turned out I was right.

Thats funny...when I saw that rust I thought "F'in S0n oF a B!atch" eye turn eye turn

These cars are apparently notorious for horrible rust...made in Mexico from sub par materials.


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Post by Dougie Murder on November 13th 2011, 8:44 pm

Next i got the car up on 4 stands and started to do the breaks...
Of course i snapped all 4 bolts trying to get one of the front the rims off... ahhh ahhh



You would not believe how hard it was to get these bolts out...
No amount of heat or brute force would move them.
In the end I just ended up replacing the entire steering knuckle with one from a junker...to make my life easier.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 13th 2011, 10:06 pm

Got the 2 new fenders on and sanded then started cutting out the rust in various places.
Im sure all my neighbors LOVE me Laughing



Me and my old man borrowed a welder and started the patchwork...
DISCLAIMER: I HAVE NEVER WELDED ANYTHING AND MY DAD HADN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE HIGH SCHOOL.










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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 14th 2011, 12:28 am

Nice work.

I noticed back in the late '80s and early '90s, that the American manufacturers had really improved, rust avoidance-wise, while the Japanese were still building some real potential rustbuckets. Took them a few more years to get it under control.

Don't know if you're in Ontario, but this guy is near St. Thomas, I believe:

http://www.youtube.com/user/canadacatalyst#g/u

He scraps and salvages cars and has a thing for watercooled VWs. He has a few videos about them.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 15th 2011, 11:21 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:Nice work.

I noticed back in the late '80s and early '90s, that the American manufacturers had really improved, rust avoidance-wise, while the Japanese were still building some real potential rustbuckets. Took them a few more years to get it under control.

Don't know if you're in Ontario, but this guy is near St. Thomas, I believe:

http://www.youtube.com/user/canadacatalyst#g/u

He scraps and salvages cars and has a thing for watercooled VWs. He has a few videos about them.

I actually work in the automotive coating industry, so I do know a bit about painting and the reasons you see certain paint defects or conditions.
Back in the 80's Pre-treatment and E-coating were in their infancy in the Auto industry. Through years of reasearch and standardization in the late 80's ad 90's, the level of protection offered has increased leaps and bounds here in north america as well as overseas. Unfortunately, it seems like if you buy an entry level vehicle, odds are cheap materials have been used and corners have been cut due to costing issues.

I am in ontario.
St Thomas is about 2 hours away from me.
It's funny how many scrapyards i've been to looking for parts for this piece of crap with no success.
I've found tons of spare parts by joining various internet forums...often the ppl I talk to are farmers just outside the city who have a field of scrapped out VW's and make extra coin parting them out.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 16th 2011, 12:29 am

Moving forward,
I painted the grill with some rubberized under coat...

Probably should have primed the hood sooner after i sanded..oh well I did kind of like this look.


After sanding and leveling everything out as best i could, i masked all the windows and prepared to spray.


In order to avoid overspray getting on my neighbors cars, I decided to spray in my "garage" which is actually a 40 year old shack with gravel floor...so i was expecting to deal with dirt and other crap.
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Post by retired plumber on November 16th 2011, 10:45 pm

Just wet the gravel down a bit to keep the dust down. Actually, if you can why not spray down the walls also first. It will also help with the dust.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 17th 2011, 12:24 am

Here's the stuff i used.
Valspar Ford Blue Tractor paint
Mineral spirits
HVLP cheap-o gun
Husky 20 gal compressor set @ 50 PSI
Used a 1:2 ratio of solvent to paint w/ about 10mls of the hardener mentioned below


I couldn't find the valspar hardener anywhere!! Everywhere i went people looked at me cross-eyed when I asked for it.
Couldn't even order it online, no shipping to Canada.
So I contacted one of our paint suppliers and got an equivalent product.
Dont ask me what it's called...it has some crazy scientific name.


Always wear the proper PPE when spraying in enclosed areas.


Put the first coat on after testing/perfecting my spray patteren on one of the old rusty fenders.


Got some paint runs on the bumper...first lesson learned, dont try to get full coverage on the first coat!
Light coats!
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 17th 2011, 1:10 am


Coat #2 gave me much better hiding.


Coat #4...looks great when its wet!! Laughing
At this point i stopped.
The car looked decent, peel was bad in spots but i figured I'd be able to buff it out.


NNext step, wetsand and buff

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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 17th 2011, 3:48 pm

Dougie Murder wrote:often the ppl I talk to are farmers just outside the city who have a field of scrapped out VW's and make extra coin parting them out.
There is at least one video on the youtube channel I linked to, where the dude goes and buys some VWs at a farm, where the seller has a barn full of them. The cars tend to get overrun by varmints, in that sort of environment.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 17th 2011, 4:01 pm

Tommy Hillbilly wrote:
Dougie Murder wrote:often the ppl I talk to are farmers just outside the city who have a field of scrapped out VW's and make extra coin parting them out.
There is at least one video on the youtube channel I linked to, where the dude goes and buys some VWs at a farm, where the seller has a barn full of them. The cars tend to get overrun by varmints, in that sort of environment.

Laughing That might be where this car came from!!!
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on November 17th 2011, 5:28 pm

Looks like it's gonna turn out pretty nice. With that color, she'll probably be one of a kind.
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Post by Dougie Murder on November 18th 2011, 8:40 pm

The paint flowed nicely on the most parts of the car.
A few panels had horrible peel.
Wetsanding until my arm went dead...polishing with Meguiars Ulitimate Compound and a rotary buffer.


Side by side comparison


In the end it turned out great!!
I was able to level out thge really bad peel and get a great shine.
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Post by leeready on December 5th 2011, 12:56 pm

Any full-body shots? I'm liking this color a lot.
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Post by Dougie Murder on December 9th 2011, 1:43 am



Here it is after the first time i buffed it with the ultimate compound.
Looks good from 10feet...but up close it still had some sand marks showing through.

I went at it again, wetsand and ultimate compound with a hair pad...bought a different one cuz the one that came with my buffer was worn out after doing the hood/roof and trunk...




But I dont think i got all the compound off the doors/fenders, and it dried on Sad



Those darker spots are where I have rubbed the white stuff off with my finger...it wont come off any other way!!! Alcohol, thinner...does nothing.
Anyone ever dealt with this before? What can i use besides my skin???


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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on December 9th 2011, 4:19 pm

I think a buffer will take it off, but I wouldn't know which pad and which compound to tell you to use.
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Post by Dougie Murder on December 29th 2011, 4:47 pm

Got most of the dried on rubbing compound off.
Switched back to my old hair pad...which was worn out but did a good job of taking the stuff off.

Not bad for a winter beater...

Costs:
Paint $40
Solvent $10
Gun $40
Sandpaper $20
Rotary Buffer: Free
Hair pad: $10
Wool pad: $10

About $130 bucks after all....and countless hours of labor!!!
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Post by 63Falconconvert on December 29th 2011, 5:20 pm

But it was all worth it right........ thumbs up
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Post by Tommy Hillbilly on December 30th 2011, 2:08 am

Nice!
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Post by nhmercracer on January 1st 2012, 1:58 pm

Magic Erasers will remove a lot of things without damaging the surface.

Awesome From "what a rust bucket" to "I'd drive that!"!
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