'63 VW Bug, Gloss black

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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by 63Falconconvert on January 11th 2012, 1:40 pm

cac1967 wrote:Appears to be sanded through to another layer of paint, this is what appear's when you sand through clear on bc/cc. go up a few grit's on your paper and buff with uc then buff with the ult polish. If it does not come out just sand with 600 and repaint. Just my 2 cents

Thats exactlly what happened. I did that alot on the 63 but being it's white you don't notice it as much.
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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by subgraphic on January 11th 2012, 2:22 pm

Here is the wagner I will be using




Thanks for the help everyone. I sanded until the paper wasn't "cutting" any more, plus some. I suppose it was to much.I think that when I spray it, I'll go thicker, and prolly spray 3-4 times so I have enough to sand.

I will be using Rusto satin black on the top, and gloss on the sides, exactly like this bug:





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Post by 63Falconconvert on January 11th 2012, 2:25 pm

wow that bug is bag @ss for sure. Is it bagged or hydros?
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Post by subgraphic on January 11th 2012, 2:26 pm

leeready wrote:Which wagner do you have? I have this one: http://www.homedepot.com/buy/paint/paint-sprayers/wagner/control-spray-double-duty-93373.html

I only sprayed the hood on my last project. It came out good.

would love to see some pics!
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Post by subgraphic on January 11th 2012, 2:28 pm

63Falconconvert wrote:wow that bug is bag @ss for sure. Is it bagged or hydros?

All bags on bugs now-a-days. They actually ride nice when its set up right. Ive considered it... Cool
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Post by 63Falconconvert on January 11th 2012, 2:30 pm

I love bugs/dune buggies. My next project is going to be an early 60's buggy.

Go for the bags....what kind of cash is needed to do it right?
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Post by subgraphic on January 11th 2012, 2:41 pm

Figure 1500-1800 for the full kit, another 200 or so for the miscellaneous stuff.
Takes a bit of welding. If the bug is down to the pan, you can prolly have it all installed for 25 hundred.

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Post by 63Falconconvert on January 11th 2012, 2:50 pm

How's the ride once it's bagged?
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Post by subgraphic on February 18th 2012, 2:32 pm

Well, I took a shot and sprayed the hood with my wagner, using ACE hardware satin black rust stop paint.

The can say it didn't recommenced thinning it, so I didnt.
Here are the results:






So, it looks like it was sprayed with bedliner. The wagner spit and wasn't as smooth as I had hoped, but I was trying to limit over spray so I didn't test it as much as I should have.

The good news is that I really like the satin color, and I'll move forward with this on the top and do the gloss black, wetsanded cut and polished on the sides.

next steps: sand hood back down to flat, thin the paint, test the gun until It sprays smooth, pray to god, re-shoot.

Any tips or advise for shooting satin? I cant sand it once its shot, can I? Will thinning it help? Should I roll it instead? Cool


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Post by subgraphic on February 18th 2012, 2:37 pm

Also picked up some Porsche 911 seats...


yay!

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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by cac1967 on February 18th 2012, 7:02 pm

Thinning should cure the peel and maybe a little penetrol would help it flow better.
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Post by T.Hadley on February 18th 2012, 10:17 pm

cac1967 wrote:Thinning should cure the peel and maybe a little penetrol would help it flow better.

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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by Gore on February 19th 2012, 11:48 am

I sprayed some toolboxes with satin black and eventually got it to turn out smooth. I used penetrol, acetone, and japan drier, each in the recommended amounts.

I think the key to getting satin to turn out nice was light coats. If I rushed and put it on too heavy or recoated too soon it would turn out blotchy or too shiny.
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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by retired plumber on February 19th 2012, 4:20 pm

I would reduce it about 3 paint to 1 thinner (auto paint style) and go from there. One tack (light) coat, 3 wet coats and a final just misted on coat of mostly reducer with a bit of color in it (with tack time between them of course). This final coat (THEY say) helps to prevent orange peel and from my experience seems to work good.
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Re: '63 VW Bug, Gloss black

Post by Noah Zarq on February 19th 2012, 6:42 pm

Gore wrote:I think the key to getting satin to turn out nice was light coats. If I rushed and put it on too heavy or recoated too soon it would turn out blotchy or too shiny.
Absolutely true! When I sprayed Justin's Sentra, I just made several thin coats and allowed it to "flash" between coats. No dry spray, no runs, turned out nice. Of course, it was not rusto/mineral spirits either, but "real" paint and hardner. But the same technique applies regardless of the paint being sprayed.
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